I use the term "featherbedding" across the board, including (often
especially!) management, which latter I suspect is much of the problem in
Vancouver. All aboard the gravy train to greater (personal) prosperity!
Tony P
On Wednesday, 17 August 2022 at 09:52:47 UTC+10a...@... wrote:
> “Featherbedding” - that’s a term used by the resentful, overpaid, boss
> buggered fellatists in management bullshit jobs (the most useless and
> redundant parasites in any workplace) to describe decent, union secured and
> enforced working conditions.
>
> Most employers would prefer to use slaves or forced prison labour if they
> had the choice, so they’ll always complain that their employees get “too
> much” or that there are too many off them.
>
> See : World's media pan Rinehart's $2 a day African miner comments
> https://www.smh.com.au/business/worlds-media-pan-rineharts-2-a-day-african-miner-comments-20120906-25fpq.html
>
> Nothing says “boss” more than Pig Gina.
>
> Tony
>
> On 17 Aug 2022, at 08:57, TP histor...@...> wrote:
>
> I think two issues are being confused there Greg - automated trains and
> staff featherbedding. Automated commuter trains are the preferred choice in
> any city that is able to introduce them and there's a large and growing
> number of complete GoA4 (crewless) systems.
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automated_train_systems#Grade-of-Automation_4_systems
>
> The paper I posted a while ago pointed out that studies had found a
> reduction in operating costs of some 50% compared with a system with
> drivers (never mind comparing with Sydney with two crew on each train, that
> would likely be more than 50% reduction). Sydney Trains is subsidised for
> about 70% of its operating costs iirc. Sydney Metro is expected to at least
> break even when it reaches a critical mass.
>
> The situation in Vancouver sounds like gross maladministration where a
> whole heap of people have succeeded in setting up a massive workplace
> featherbed for themselves. The lack of political oversight (or
> collaboration) in that would surely require some sort of probity
> investigation. Besides control room and maintenance staff, Sydney metro has
> an attendant at each station and additional roving staff, but nowhere near
> the numbers required for a crewed system.
>
> Tony P
>
> On Wednesday, 17 August 2022 at 08:22:06 UTC+10gregsut...@...
> wrote:
>
>> From: dmalcolmjohnston=yaho...@...>
>>
>>
>> A correction, in my haste I have made an error, the Expo and Millennium
>> lines, had in 2019 over 900 employees.
>>
>> The Canada Line being a P-3, the number of employees are deemed
>> proprietary and not released. In 2011 there was 180 unionized employees and
>> i an trying to get a more current number but i do remember i was rather
>> shocked by the number of people working on the SkyTrain light metro system.
>>
>> It is safe to say that well over 1,200 unionized workers work on all
>> three driverless rapid transit lines.
>>
>> Another hint is that TransLink has almost 1,000 employees earning over
>> CAD$100K, but that is it no breakdown of who works where.
>>
>> From my records, The Expo line has cost about 60% more to operate than
>> Calgary's C-Train, with both lines being about the same length, but that
>> was about decade ago.
>>
>> TransLink does not like to release reliable numbers so it is is difficult
>> to get accurate figures, except by gleening local media for PR slip ups.
>>
>> Suffice to say, no one has copied Vancouver's transit planning, nor its
>> exclusive use of driverless trains.
>>
>> Malcolm
>>
>>
>>
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