Re: Gap fillers on L1 platforms
  TP

One in Korea:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9M-5RD9TFQ

Tony P

On Tuesday, 16 August 2022 at 23:23:06 UTC+10oct...@... wrote:

> There's only one station left in NYC with gap fillers - 14th St/Union

> Square on the downtown 4/5/6 train (Lexington Avenue Line). They're very

> much platform mounted. They're pneumatic, and deploy when the train has

> stopped - the conductor waits to open doors until they're deployed. They're

> actually "knocked back" by the movement of the train when departing - I've

> heard that's to avoid anyone falling through who tries to run towards the

> train while the doors are closing. As such, the operator starts moving

> slowly until the fillers retract.

>

> Video of it in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji4PjCHaRcU

>

> The old South Ferry (1 train southern terminus) had them as well, as did

> Times Square on the 42nd St shuttle. South Ferry's are still there, but the

> loop station is out of service (replaced by a new station), and the entire

> 42nd St shuttle has been rebuilt, which included reconfiguring the Times Sq

> shuttle platforms to eliminate those gap fillers.

>

> On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 4:00 AM 'bblun...@yahoo.com' via TramsDownUnder <

>tramsdo...@...> wrote:

>

>> I was a bit worried about all the people pushing on the windows though.

>> Could have been disastrous if the glass had given way?

>>

>> I was in New York a few years ago and I recall a station on very tight

>> curve. There were extendable mechanical fillers used to bridge the

>> considerable gaps. I can't remember whether they were under the carriage

>> floor, or under the platform copings. Would something like this work here?

>>

>> On Tuesday, 16 August 2022 at 03:47:31 pm AEST, David Batho <

>>dba...@...> wrote:

>>

>>

>> Interesting video. Amazing the number of bystanders who came up to have a

>> look, and then just stood there gawking, not helping. I remember one of the

>> things we were told to do when a student was injured (I was a teacher) was

>> to keep bystanders away from an incident, so they didn’t get in the way and

>> didn’t panic the patient.

>>

>> I was also intrigued by the young guy who appeared to be blocking both

>> his ears. I though he might have been trying to block out the screams of

>> the accident victim (maybe a sensory thing?), but then I realised he was

>> talking on his phone (held up to one ear) whilst blocking the other ear so

>> he could hear properly. I’m guessing he was giving a running commentary to

>> someone?

>>

>> Really encouraged by how everyone pitched in and help to push the train

>> over to release the guy’s leg, though.

>>

>> Funny thing, crowd behaviour...

>>

>> David

>>

>>

>> On 14 Aug 2022, at 7:54 pm, TP histor...@...> wrote:

>>

>> These gap fillers are basically to minimise hazards for boarding and

>> alighting passengers on curved platforms. When the Disability

>> Discrimination Act came into force in 1992, the requirements were not as

>> strict as those of the subsequent regulations of 2002. Off the top of my

>> head, at least two new Australian tram and train commuter lines were built

>> between 1992 and 2002 - the IWLR in Sydney and much of the Joondalup line

>> in Perth. Both had a mixture of straight and curved platforms, which in

>> hindsight was a mistake. They were considered as compliant at the time, but

>> subsequent to 2002 are not. The solution to making the Sydney IWLR line

>> compliant was the use of portable ramps, similar to, but more unwieldy

>> than the fold-out ramps on buses, by means of which that mode gains

>> compliance. The Joondalup line is a bit more up the proverbial creek and

>> there was a notorious accident several years ago when somebody fell down

>> the gap at Stirling Station. My guess is they would be installing gap

>> fillers there, if they haven't already done so.

>>

>> A 1990s gap not compliant with the 2002 regs:

>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGIG4FQBDjI

>>

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