There's only one station left in NYC with gap fillers - 14th St/Union
Square on the downtown 4/5/6 train (Lexington Avenue Line). They're very
much platform mounted. They're pneumatic, and deploy when the train has
stopped - the conductor waits to open doors until they're deployed. They're
actually "knocked back" by the movement of the train when departing - I've
heard that's to avoid anyone falling through who tries to run towards the
train while the doors are closing. As such, the operator starts moving
slowly until the fillers retract.
Video of it in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji4PjCHaRcU
The old South Ferry (1 train southern terminus) had them as well, as did
Times Square on the 42nd St shuttle. South Ferry's are still there, but the
loop station is out of service (replaced by a new station), and the entire
42nd St shuttle has been rebuilt, which included reconfiguring the Times Sq
shuttle platforms to eliminate those gap fillers.
On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 4:00 AM 'bblunt3473@yahoo.com' via TramsDownUnder <
tramsdownunder@...> wrote:
> I was a bit worried about all the people pushing on the windows though.
> Could have been disastrous if the glass had given way?
>
> I was in New York a few years ago and I recall a station on very tight
> curve. There were extendable mechanical fillers used to bridge the
> considerable gaps. I can't remember whether they were under the carriage
> floor, or under the platform copings. Would something like this work here?
>
> On Tuesday, 16 August 2022 at 03:47:31 pm AEST, David Batho <
>dbatho@...> wrote:
>
>
> Interesting video. Amazing the number of bystanders who came up to have a
> look, and then just stood there gawking, not helping. I remember one of the
> things we were told to do when a student was injured (I was a teacher) was
> to keep bystanders away from an incident, so they didn’t get in the way and
> didn’t panic the patient.
>
> I was also intrigued by the young guy who appeared to be blocking both his
> ears. I though he might have been trying to block out the screams of the
> accident victim (maybe a sensory thing?), but then I realised he was
> talking on his phone (held up to one ear) whilst blocking the other ear so
> he could hear properly. I’m guessing he was giving a running commentary to
> someone?
>
> Really encouraged by how everyone pitched in and help to push the train
> over to release the guy’s leg, though.
>
> Funny thing, crowd behaviour...
>
> David
>
>
> On 14 Aug 2022, at 7:54 pm, TP historyworks@...> wrote:
>
> These gap fillers are basically to minimise hazards for boarding and
> alighting passengers on curved platforms. When the Disability
> Discrimination Act came into force in 1992, the requirements were not as
> strict as those of the subsequent regulations of 2002. Off the top of my
> head, at least two new Australian tram and train commuter lines were built
> between 1992 and 2002 - the IWLR in Sydney and much of the Joondalup line
> in Perth. Both had a mixture of straight and curved platforms, which in
> hindsight was a mistake. They were considered as compliant at the time, but
> subsequent to 2002 are not. The solution to making the Sydney IWLR line
> compliant was the use of portable ramps, similar to, but more unwieldy
> than the fold-out ramps on buses, by means of which that mode gains
> compliance. The Joondalup line is a bit more up the proverbial creek and
> there was a notorious accident several years ago when somebody fell down
> the gap at Stirling Station. My guess is they would be installing gap
> fillers there, if they haven't already done so.
>
> A 1990s gap not compliant with the 2002 regs:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGIG4FQBDjI
>
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