The current dispute confirms that the RTBU has no interest in agreeing to
any change that results in loss of crew numbers from trains - or trams no
doubt. Automation will achieve no opex savings (except maybe a little in
power consumption) because there will still be crew on board, even if
they're reading their papers while the train or tram runs itself. It's even
worse in Sydney because there are two crew on the trains. In most cities
nowadays, it's an issue of displacing only a driver. At least the trains
have some hope in Sydney through building more metro and converting
existing lines to metro. I don't know what the answer would be for trams.
On Friday, 5 August 2022 at 14:35:03 UTC+10dba...@... wrote:
> Interesting. Thank you, Matthew. My Volvo is seven years old. No doubt the
> newer ones are much better at this!
> > On 5 Aug 2022, at 2:09 pm, Matthew Geier mat...@...>
> > On 5/8/22 13:48, David Batho wrote:
> >> My Volvo’s system also warns me of joints in the tar, and shadows on
> the road surface, but only very occasionally!
> > That problem was solved years ago - using 'sensor fusion'. Our self
> driving Rav4 (Uni research project) was dodging shadows when using vision
> only, but they added LIDAR and RADAR to the sensor mix and it stopped
> dodging shadows. That was over 10 years ago. Much research has passed since
> > I do not that more recently a certain showman of a CEO stated his cars
> would 'self drive' using vision only. Good enough for people, good enough
> for the robots.
> > Both France and Germany are trialing autonomous 'country' trains - where
> they go out on mixed traffic lines, mixed with other passenger trains,
> freight, level crossings, farm crossings, etc.
> > Sydney Suburbans running automated is certainly with in possibility.
> > The French project is interesting in that the French Rail unions make
> our RBTU look like ineffective amateurs. Maybe the game plan is have a
> train drivers strike and the trains all depart their depots and do their
> runs anyway... :-)
> > The French also did a trial of autonomous stabling in a Paris tram
> depot. The drivers stepped off at the gate and the trams took them selves
> to the stabling road and shutdown.
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