Interesting. Thank you, Matthew. My Volvo is seven years old. No doubt the newer ones are much better at this!

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>> My Volvo’s system also warns me of joints in the tar, and shadows on the road surface, but only very occasionally!

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> That problem was solved years ago - using 'sensor fusion'. Our self driving Rav4 (Uni research project) was dodging shadows when using vision only, but they added LIDAR and RADAR to the sensor mix and it stopped dodging shadows. That was over 10 years ago. Much research has passed since then.

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> I do not that more recently a certain showman of a CEO stated his cars would 'self drive' using vision only. Good enough for people, good enough for the robots.

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> Both France and Germany are trialing autonomous 'country' trains - where they go out on mixed traffic lines, mixed with other passenger trains, freight, level crossings, farm crossings, etc.

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> Sydney Suburbans running automated is certainly with in possibility.

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> The French project is interesting in that the French Rail unions make our RBTU look like ineffective amateurs. Maybe the game plan is have a train drivers strike and the trains all depart their depots and do their runs anyway... :-)

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> The French also did a trial of autonomous stabling in a Paris tram depot. The drivers stepped off at the gate and the trams took them selves to the stabling road and shutdown.

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