Re: Parramatta tram collision warning system

It'll be difficult to automate the Sydney suburban system because of the
amount of shared running and mixed train operations, but they will try it
on isolated branches, like ESR and Cronulla line. The RTBU will continue to
ensure there's two crew on board, so it won't bring any major cost saving
but the operation should be improved.

Tony P

On Thursday, 4 August 2022 at 16:19:33 UTC+10mat...@...

> On 4/8/22 15:46, TP wrote:

> > The last video on the Milan metro is the same sort of operation as

> > Sydney metro, but at a lower maximum speed.

> >

> The Milan Metro is one of the nosiest I've ever traveled on. Regular

> users would end up with hearing loss if they don't wear 'protection'. It

> was bad. Although the train control system has nothing to do with that,

> the noise is bad civil engineering.


> I've been riding at the front of a DLR train when a car attendant came

> up and ask could I move. They opened the panel and manually bough the

> train to a stop at the next station and manually started it again.

> Apparently building works at the station caused them to temporary move

> the stopping points and it was easier to have the staff override the

> approach than to alter the automation. UK law requires a 'qualified

> person' on board, so every service has a staff member on board, just not

> up the front.


> I've also been on a Singapore Circle train on Sunday morning to find I

> couldn't get up the front. They use Sunday mornings for the staff to get

> practice at 'coded manual' operation of service trains. Sydney Metro

> regularly rosters staff on 'training runs' but they do it with empty

> trains in the non service hours.


> Train automation is a given. It's only a matter of time before even

> Sydney's big 'deckers' get automated. Street running trams will only be

> a short ways behind - the automation will need a degree of

> aggressiveness to force its way through pedestrians :-)