What can be more enlightened than a historic tram service featuring a local
composer?
https://en.um.warszawa.pl/-/chopin-tram-music-production
https://youtu.be/8lHyh1RJvoQ
On Wed, 27 July 2022, 10:54 am Jeremy Wainwright, jewiwa@...>
wrote:
> Thanks, Matthew, for confirmation that the 'T-collector' that I had
> mentally 'invented' actually exists. Can you name some of the relevant
> enlightened systems?
>
> I like your suggestion for a ' Sunday clause' in the operating contracts
> but imagine that getting one now would involve pushing a lot of the
> malodorous commodity up a steep incline.
>
> JWW
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> on behalf of Matthew Geier matthew@...>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 26 July 2022 10:54 PM
> *To:*tramsdownunder@... tramsdownunder@...>
> *Subject:* Re: [TramsDownUnder] Gunzels only
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>
> More enlightened systems that have converted to pantograph operation allow
> pole equipped trams out with a simple reversible (thus protecting the
> heritage of the vehicle) alteration - they lock the ability of the pole to
> pivot and place a pantograph head over the skid/wheel. The pole then acts
> sort of like like a bow-collector.
>
> The heritage car the then gets to get out of the museum and get some
> exercise, but with out the often some times major alteration of changing it
> to a pantograph collector and possibly having to make changes that effect
> the heritage value of the item.
>
> I see the major issue in Melbourne is there is no incentive for the
> private operator to let the heritage fleet out and plenty of incentive not
> to. A fact of life is the vintage car is more likely to have some sort of
> failure and cause delays. The nature of the vintage 'tour' (tardy gunzels)
> will create delays. Those delays attract fines to the operator.
>
> I suspect if the franchise agreement said 'let heritage fleet out on
> Sundays. You will not be penalised for any delay attributable to issues
> with the heritage fleet' and the situation would be VERY different.
>
>
> On 23/7/22 12:53, Bob Pearce wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> If one can get past the lack of overhead frogs, poles could almost use
> that stuff except at junctions etc.
>
>
>
> A good connie type would certainly be able to ‘swing’ the pole from one
> wire to another.
>
>
>
> BUT, I guess those days are well and truly over.
>
>
>
> Does YT still permit tram tours to happen?
>
>
>
> Bob in Perth
>
>
>
> *From:*tramsdownunder@... tramsdownunder@...>
> tramsdownunder@...> *On Behalf Of *Mal Rowe
> *Sent:* Saturday, 23 July 2022 9:31 AM
> *To:*tramsdownunder@...
> *Subject:* Re: [TramsDownUnder] Gunzels only
>
>
>
>
>
> On 23/07/2022 11:05,tramdude@... wrote:
>
> Looks like they are still using parafil span wire. Is that only on
> straight sections or have they gone back to using it on curves now there
> are no trolley poles to slice through it?
>
>
>
> It certainly looks like it.
>
> Looking back over some of my pics I see that they have been using this
> gear for a while.
>
> See: https://tdu.to/i/78559
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> Mal Rowe - assuming Yarra are trying a new vendor of overhead fittings
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