RE: Re: Sixty years of trolleybuses, Pilsen

The Leppington heavy rail line in Sydney is a perfect example. When constructed, it went through open farmlands. It opened in February 2015. Now, it is surrounded by new residential development.


From:tramsdownunder@... [] On Behalf Of Mark Skinner
Sent: Monday, 3 January 2022 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TramsDownUnder] Re: Sixty years of trolleybuses, Pilsen

Others seem to think: "Build it and they'll come."

Here's a greenfield extension in Szczecin, Poland. The two images are at approximate right angles.

Prague has also let contracts for extensions from Modřany and Sídliště Barandov which have some running through fields.

Then there's rural lines like Liberec-Jablonec (out of commission due to gauge change from narrow to standard - too bad for those who missed the dual guage system now), and Gotha in Germany. Zatiši in Ostrava etc, etc. Riding Liberec-Jablonec was like Eaglehawk and Sebastopol...slightly dodgy single track and drivers going like the clappers...with passengers hanging on for dear life.

Iirc, that stretch of land in TP's shot gives way to a big shopping centre too.

On Mon, 3 Jan 2022, 10:42 am Dudley Horscroft, transitconsult@... > wrote:

Tony, yes, but the photo you provided has the TB out in the open countryside, and I cannot recall seeing a habitation in the fields. Definitely not a place for trams, unless from one dense CBD to a major also dense suburb. Rather like the Glenelg tramway - CBD to seaside resort.

Regards and a Happy New Year


On 3/01/2022 12:16 am, TP wrote:

Dudley, Pilsen also has a tram system. The Trolleybus system is only the second tier of the city's public transport. Pilsen has a population close to that of Townsville, about 180,000 but it's a major industrial city and, with the European pattern of high public transport use, it's not surprising that there's a intensely-used public transport system.

Tony P

On Sunday, 2 January 2022 at 15:20:53 UTC+11transit...@... wrote:

This is the sort of populated area suited to trolleybuses. Trams for cities where there are large numbers of people.



On 1/01/2022 11:26 am, TP wrote:

The present - a rather evocative photo of a 27Tr on Line 11, Pilsen - except that there's no "Line" on this stretch.

Tony P

On Saturday, 1 January 2022 at 11:15:22 UTC+11 TP wrote:

An historical lineup in chronological order of sixty years of trolleybuses serving Pilsen, 1940-2020, in front of a municipal house and taken from the main railway station. The overhead wires in this historical city don't appear to be the problem that is made of them elsewhere. I don't recall noticing them except at junctions and crossings where they are rather untidy, but Pilsen is now buying in-motion charging trolleybuses that no longer need a complete array of wires and have considerable range off-wire.

Over 14,000 trolleybuses have been manufactured at Škoda Pilsen and exported around the world, the second largest trolleybus manufacturer in the world after one in USSR, now defunct, so now the largest in Europe. On that note, the formerly largest trolleybus system in the world, in Moscow, has recently been closed and replaced by a fleet of battery-electric buses. We'll see how that goes. The performance metrics of a modern trolleybus are superior to those of a battery (or fuel cell) electric bus, notably in respect of virtual 24 hour availability and lower weight, hence greater passenger capacity and lower power consumption. The transport world is afflicted by an irrational madness today.

Tony P

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