The Transdev Melbourne situation came about as a result of a very low
tender price that didn't allow for good quality maintenance. Lessons were
learned on both sides from that. With operational privatisation, a lot
depends on the competence of the agency to administer such a system and
this varies from state to state, with Victoria probably being the worst and
WA the best. TfNSW sits somewhere in between, but is improving.
On Friday, 26 November 2021 at 21:18:20 UTC+11andrewh...@... wrote:
> But then have a look at Transdev's bus service history in Melbourne.
> I've found Sydney's public train and eastern to south eastern bus system
> to be quite good. Unlike in Melbourne, Sydney folk are more inclined to
> thank government run bus drivers when they alight. Tourist perspective,
> yes. Melbourne's fully privatised bus system is poor compared to when quite
> a part of it was government owned and run.
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> On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 20:23, TP histor...@...> wrote:
>> The average private contract operator would be rolling on the floor with
>> laughter at that pigs in the trough analogy. In reality, TfNSW's margins
>> are so tight that it's barely commercially viable to win some of these
>> contracts. A lot of them take on the job to maintain their profile in the
>> market, because it's a national sector and there are more lucrative
>> contracts elsewhere, but they can't afford to let competitors occupy too
>> much of the available space and establish a dominant presence. They do save
>> operating costs compared to the government operations and have better
>> operational efficiencies and improved customer service, some of the reasons
>> for the now almost universal practice of operational privatisation. They
>> have very elaborate performance standards that they have to comply with and
>> sometimes there's tension between what they're paid and what they're
>> required to do. Obviously they can't allow the business to go into loss.
>> As for the rest of the "anti-privatisation" scare propaganda about loss
>> of public assets, service cuts, fare rises etc, in fact that all remains
>> under government control, so anything that happens there emanates from the
>> government, not the operator.
>> Tony P
>> On Friday, 26 November 2021 at 15:54:02 UTC+11a...@... wrote:
>>> [image: Create meme "the pig is scary, pigs at the trough, pig
>>> " - Pictures - Meme -arsenal.com]
>>> Nothing else.
>>> On 26 Nov 2021, at 3:23 pm, TP histor...@...> wrote:
>>> Transdev in association with John Holland will take over Sydney bus
>>> region 9, the last of State Transit's operations, in April 2022. From a
>>> tram perspective, this is the region within which CSELR operates, the
>>> eastern and south eastern suburbs.
>>> Tony P
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