As far back as I can remember, when the NSWGR (and derivatives) placed a major order with outside contractors, supervising inspectors were appointed from internal staff to ensure that the contractor did not cut corners and kept to the specifications of the contract – unless otherwise agreed.
I suspect that Management (possibly even that has been outsourced!) no longer has the expertise to either prepare the tender, examine in minute detail the tenders received to confirm that they meet requirements and/or to fully manage the contract once it is let.
Hunslet.
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But who drew up the specifications for this train, including the measurements and design that should have complied with the DDA standards? Not politicians for sure. Perhaps the Indian builders didn't comply with the specification (that would be unusual)? So who then had oversight of the ongoing progress of the build to ensure that it complied with the specifications? Again, not the politicians.
It's very typical around the world for train tenders to be advertised internationally, with the successful bidder not necessarily in the customer's home country. Or, like NSW, the successful bidder is in Australia but subcontracts construction work overseas. It's then incumbent on the local company to ensure compliance of the product.
I don't necessarily support this. It's better if these transport products are built in Australia, but there can be good reasons why a particular specialised product with very small production runs has to be sourced overseas. Trams come to mind. It certainly annoys me that any buses at all should be imported but the blame for that often state Treasuries that insist on the cheapest product.
Tony P
On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 10:49:17 AM UTC+11gregsut...@... mailto:gregsut...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
The situation in Queensland is not related to attitudes or actions of Queensland rail engineers. Rather it is a manifestation, and an expensive one, of the obsessive "buy foreign and 'off the shelf' public transit trainsets policiy of former Premier Campbell Newman.
Similar buy off the shelf or imports while excluding locals fiascoes can be seen in the doctrinaire policies that have been applied in NSW, Constance trains/ferries and Victoria, Kennett trams (C & Ds) and trains.
Greg
On 20/10/2021 5:32 pm, TP wrote:
That lack of respect for people with a disability, including any mobility impairment, is universal in the public transport sector in Australia. Not confined to Queensland governments or Queensland rail engineers by any means.
Tony P
On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 3:20:59 PM UTC+11gregsut...@... mailto:gregsut...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-10/queensland-rail-inquiry-new-trained-failed-from-day-one-forde/10600554
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