Re: Worth repeating

Frank Strahan, the Melbourne University Archivist whom I knew for many
years ago had an entire network among the disposal chain, including the
Salvation Army, to alert him to family stuff being thrown out. I hope his
successor is carrying this on. No doubt some tramway material may be of
interest to them. Possibly worth opening up a discussion with them.

Tony P

On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 10:42:20 AM UTC+11eme...@... wrote:

> Having had to dispose of the effects of a couple of passed relatives, I

> can vouch that deciding what to do with material THEY valued, but which I

> had little knowledge of was a challenge.


> With the best intentions in the world, the people who come after simply

> cannot know what should be kept, and what goes to the tip.


> Being faced with a room full of slides and negatives is so overwhelming

> that many will give up. At best they will grab a random handful "to

> remember Grandpa by", and the rest goes to landfill. Our life's work. :(


> My approach was to get all images digitised and put on a couple of hard

> drives with with a note on the box of who should have it. The idea being

> that this makes it easy on the people clearing my place and clears their

> consciences.


> There's a lot of good stuff people have been photographing out there. If

> you get it digitised and nominate to whom or where it should go, it has a

> good chance of surviving. Otherwise, the chances of a lifetime of photos

> surviving at all are quite low.


> Mark Skinner


> On Sun, 10 Oct 2021, 11:05 pm espee8800, espe...@...> wrote:



>> *In my trawling through old emails whilst reducing my inbox, I came

>> across David Featherstone's #143 post and I think his comments are worthy

>> of a repeat. Of course the answer is obvious, material should go to a

>> museum that will look after the material. As for which one, wellI don't

>> have any opinion. Non Government papers often go to SLV but I have no idea

>> whether they accept stuff from anyone. Indexed Government material will be

>> welcome at Public Records. Perhaps one of the Universities? Maybe even

>> Ballarat who seem to be well organised in the archive area. Andrew Cook

>> has well known views about another tramway organisation. Even the sharing

>> of photos on-line is fraught with danger, witness the yahoo groups debacle.

>> TDU is fortunate that Malcolm Miles maintains an archive but what happens

>> when the inevitable happens to Malcolm? Anyay keep reading --------------*



>> That's it folks, we finally got there. Thanks to the photographers who

>> took all these photos, hard to believe they are over 50 years ago Thanks to

>> Ron Scholten who sold them in the first instance. These are a classic

>> example of shots that would have sunk without trace if they weren't put out

>> now.


>> I always get the distinct feeling that a lot of our history has ended up

>> on the tip. Say I have all these shots, I tell my wife to give them to my

>> mate Frank, who is probably as old as me, when I move on. Sadly Frank

>> eventually drops off the perch too, what is Frank's wife to do will all my

>> stuff? Then Frank's wife has a stroke, the family comes in to deal with

>> things - they don't care about tram photos. They may be historically

>> mindful, probably not, they languish somewhere, then they are gone. It is

>> remarkable how little people have regard to things they are not interested

>> in. This is what happens.


>> Publish while you are still here, while you are in control, imparting

>> your story about your journey via your photos, and the marvellous stories

>> you can tell, or perish, as it were.


>> Enough sermonizing from me, it is just that I care about what you have

>> done and don't want your legacy lost to those disinterested relatives.


>> Best wishes to you all.


>> David Featherstone.



>> ==========



>> Well expressed views David on a topic that should be of interest to ALL

>> tram (and other transport) enthusiasts.

>> But, from the (non) reaction I’ve had to similar postings here on TDU and

>> discussions (usually at funerals) it seems there is little interest among

>> enthusiasts about what happens to their photographs and other “treasure”

>> after they take the final journey - to the tram depot in the sky.


>> I’ve been surprised how many enthusiasts (in the mature age group) I’ve

>> spoken with who don’t have up to date wills that cover their current

>> wishes. Some don’t have a will!

>> And, with so many single/unattached people in “the hobby” there’s often

>> no immediate family to “take care of things”.

>> Several I know who live in what they openly describe as “shambolic”

>> conditions can’t keep on top of their current “treasure” let alone leave it

>> “in order” to be shared “for the benefit and education of future

>> educations”.

>> Two pieces of advice I received many years ago:

>> (1) make sure the intended recipient(s) of any “treasure” is/are willing

>> and able to “receive” it when the time comes. We should aim to leave a

>> “bequest” not a burden.

>> (2) ensure there’s some financial support for your “treasure” to be

>> “re-established”.

>> I’ve known of people who’s “treasure” has been sent to the tip by well

>> meaning family members who didn’t realise or appreciate its “value”. In one

>> case the wife couldn’t get rid of it quick enough. (But there was a third

>> party hanging around).

>> But, as I mentioned above, all this seems to be of little interest in the

>> TDU community so, no doubt, there’ll be quite a lot of “stuff” that ends up

>> in the tip.

>> There must be SO MUCH material in the possession of older enthusiasts who

>> don’t DO social media and prefer not to share their knowledge and photos,

>> etc. I know many such people.

>> I’ll conclude with a quote from a highly respected enthusiast of the

>> past, Vane A Jones (of “Traction and Models” magazine fame):


>> “Knowledge is of no use unless it is shared”.


>> Paul in Melbourne



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>> cheers and best wishes,

>> David in,

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