Re: Worth repeating
  Mark Skinner

Having had to dispose of the effects of a couple of passed relatives, I
can vouch that deciding what to do with material THEY valued, but which I
had little knowledge of was a challenge.

With the best intentions in the world, the people who come after simply
cannot know what should be kept, and what goes to the tip.

Being faced with a room full of slides and negatives is so overwhelming
that many will give up. At best they will grab a random handful "to
remember Grandpa by", and the rest goes to landfill. Our life's work. :(

My approach was to get all images digitised and put on a couple of hard
drives with with a note on the box of who should have it. The idea being
that this makes it easy on the people clearing my place and clears their

There's a lot of good stuff people have been photographing out there. If
you get it digitised and nominate to whom or where it should go, it has a
good chance of surviving. Otherwise, the chances of a lifetime of photos
surviving at all are quite low.

Mark Skinner

On Sun, 10 Oct 2021, 11:05 pm espee8800, espee8800@...> wrote:


> *In my trawling through old emails whilst reducing my inbox, I came across

> David Featherstone's #143 post and I think his comments are worthy of a

> repeat. Of course the answer is obvious, material should go to a museum

> that will look after the material. As for which one, wellI don't have any

> opinion. Non Government papers often go to SLV but I have no idea whether

> they accept stuff from anyone. Indexed Government material will be welcome

> at Public Records. Perhaps one of the Universities? Maybe even Ballarat

> who seem to be well organised in the archive area. Andrew Cook has well

> known views about another tramway organisation. Even the sharing of photos

> on-line is fraught with danger, witness the yahoo groups debacle. TDU is

> fortunate that Malcolm Miles maintains an archive but what happens when the

> inevitable happens to Malcolm? Anyay keep reading --------------*



> That's it folks, we finally got there. Thanks to the photographers who

> took all these photos, hard to believe they are over 50 years ago Thanks to

> Ron Scholten who sold them in the first instance. These are a classic

> example of shots that would have sunk without trace if they weren't put out

> now.


> I always get the distinct feeling that a lot of our history has ended up

> on the tip. Say I have all these shots, I tell my wife to give them to my

> mate Frank, who is probably as old as me, when I move on. Sadly Frank

> eventually drops off the perch too, what is Frank's wife to do will all my

> stuff? Then Frank's wife has a stroke, the family comes in to deal with

> things - they don't care about tram photos. They may be historically

> mindful, probably not, they languish somewhere, then they are gone. It is

> remarkable how little people have regard to things they are not interested

> in. This is what happens.


> Publish while you are still here, while you are in control, imparting your

> story about your journey via your photos, and the marvellous stories you

> can tell, or perish, as it were.


> Enough sermonizing from me, it is just that I care about what you have

> done and don't want your legacy lost to those disinterested relatives.


> Best wishes to you all.


> David Featherstone.



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> Well expressed views David on a topic that should be of interest to ALL

> tram (and other transport) enthusiasts.

> But, from the (non) reaction I’ve had to similar postings here on TDU and

> discussions (usually at funerals) it seems there is little interest among

> enthusiasts about what happens to their photographs and other “treasure”

> after they take the final journey - to the tram depot in the sky.


> I’ve been surprised how many enthusiasts (in the mature age group) I’ve

> spoken with who don’t have up to date wills that cover their current

> wishes. Some don’t have a will!

> And, with so many single/unattached people in “the hobby” there’s often no

> immediate family to “take care of things”.

> Several I know who live in what they openly describe as “shambolic”

> conditions can’t keep on top of their current “treasure” let alone leave it

> “in order” to be shared “for the benefit and education of future

> educations”.

> Two pieces of advice I received many years ago:

> (1) make sure the intended recipient(s) of any “treasure” is/are willing

> and able to “receive” it when the time comes. We should aim to leave a

> “bequest” not a burden.

> (2) ensure there’s some financial support for your “treasure” to be

> “re-established”.

> I’ve known of people who’s “treasure” has been sent to the tip by well

> meaning family members who didn’t realise or appreciate its “value”. In one

> case the wife couldn’t get rid of it quick enough. (But there was a third

> party hanging around).

> But, as I mentioned above, all this seems to be of little interest in the

> TDU community so, no doubt, there’ll be quite a lot of “stuff” that ends up

> in the tip.

> There must be SO MUCH material in the possession of older enthusiasts who

> don’t DO social media and prefer not to share their knowledge and photos,

> etc. I know many such people.

> I’ll conclude with a quote from a highly respected enthusiast of the past,

> Vane A Jones (of “Traction and Models” magazine fame):


> “Knowledge is of no use unless it is shared”.


> Paul in Melbourne



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> cheers and best wishes,

> David in,

> [Before you change anything, learn why it is the way it is.]




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