The average spacing of both tram and bus stops in much of Europe is about
500 metres. I never found it particularly onerous and it speeds up the
transit.

A lot of older people use granny tanks (shopping trolleys). They deploy
them creating space for themselves when boarding.

Tony P

On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 5:48:34 PM UTC+10 Matthew Geier wrote:

> The answer is we all get fitter.

>

> People are constantly surprised at the distances I walk, sometimes

> towing a 'shopping bag on wheels' to do the grocery shopping. (4km

> round trip).

> I don't own a car, by choice. (I just don't see the value in tying up

> that sort of capital).

>

> The common availability of cheap personal transportation has made us all

> soft.

>

> I know, I'm an outlier case.

>

>

> On Thu, 30 Sept 2021 at 15:30, Michael Lewis michaeld...@...>

> wrote:

> >

> > All very nice and wonderful. But as mentioned by you and others, Light

> Rail is just one component of urban transport.

> >

> > I wondered, after catching the relevant light rail to a connected

> shopping centre - the best of all stops or terminals, not like the park at

> Juniors, how do I

> > push my loaded shopping trolley from Coles (my own - not their's) ,

> let's say, 500m to a waiting Light rail, load it on, gracefully travel to

> the nearest >= 500m spaced stop, unload the trolley

> > and then push in to my residence which is say, 750 metres away?

> >

> > I think I do it by driving to the centre, parking underneath and driving

> back home.

> >

> > The mix of private and public with massive increase of population, yet

> almost no increase in local roads and the fact that what works with public

> in peak is inappropriate for most other purposes, is a dilemma.

> > And the answer is not, to ban cars. We're all experiencing what Lockdown

> is.

> >

> > Maybe the answer is to build more cities?

> >

> >

> > I

> > On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 1:05:55 PM UTC+10

>gregsut...@... wrote:

> >>

> >>

> >>

> https://www.aurecongroup.com/thinking/thinking-papers/light-rail-future-public-transport

> >>

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