Re: TAN: Other places don't stop at points
  David Batho

Interesting set of junctions (pre-sorting) at 7:40ish.

David


> On 31 Aug 2021, at 9:53 pm, TP historyworks@...> wrote:

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> Sorry, forgot this:

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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6blq2PnTMws

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> Tony P

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> On Tuesday, 31 August 2021 at 21:52:51 UTC+10 TP wrote:

> I don't know that detail sorry Mal. Here is some Munich driving anyway - typical Central European operational style.

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> Tony P

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> On Tuesday, 31 August 2021 at 19:38:34 UTC+10 Mal Rowe wrote:

> Tony, do you know if the system also includes “approach locking” where the blades are not just set, but locked?

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> From Mal in transit

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> From:tramsdo...@... <> tramsdo...@... <>> on behalf of TP histor...@... <>>

> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 6:44:45 PM

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> Subject: [TramsDownUnder] Re: TAN: Other places don't stop at points

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> The second tram driver would have seen a points indicator signal on the post there that cleared him to proceed, that's the reason for his or her confidence (as well as a visual check most likely). The tram bell is a clatter gong, common across Europe. The second tram is a current model Siemens Avenio, the design that replaced the Combino. Siemens has licensed CRRC to build Avenios in China and export them back to Europe as CRRC-branded trams. A good German business, anything to make a Euro.

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> The excellent-quality video loaded and played instantly, even out here in the bush.

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> Tony P

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> On Tuesday, 31 August 2021 at 17:37:56 UTC+10 trams4me wrote:

> One of the puzzlements of Melbourne's trams is the fact that they all come to a halt before facing points, count to 5 then crawl over them and go on their way. It contributes to Melbourne being one of the slowest tram systems in the world and I find it incredibly frustrating.

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> I've managed to clip out a bit of stuff I shot in Munich in 2017.

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> Here's Munich Hauptbahnhof, evening peak hour traffic: tram frequency is unbelievable but watch this 45 second clip.

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> 1. Love the brrrrrring warning bell;

> 2. Love the speed of trams in an incredibly busy location - cars and pedestrians just get out of the way; drivers show no mercy <g!>

> 3. Love that they don't stop nor over TWO sets of facing points;

> 4. Amazed at how points throw in front of tram: obviously reliable as drivers totally trust that points will set: watch/listen at 00.23.

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> Why can Munich, Zurich, Vienna do this and Melbourne can't?

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> https://gallery.steam4me.net/albums/trams/international/2017-eu/de_muc_facing_points.mp4 https://gallery.steam4me.net/albums/trams/international/2017-eu/de_muc_facing_points.mp4

> Warning: 56.2MB but, hey, we've all got megaspeed NBN thanks to our FedGov, haven't we?

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> Cheers

>

> Yuri.

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