Mention of the Zurich Cobra Trams led me to browsing the Eurotram. and thence the Bombardier family of trams, with the woeful story of Bombardier trams in Ontario. This again led to the Skoda 15T and its derivatives - or perhaps I should say the derivatives of the 14T with their problems ironed out.
This led me to wonder, has there been any real advance in tram design (other than technology) since the Eurotram and the Skoda 15T. How does the Melbourne E class stack up against these?
Regards
Dudley Horscroft
On 20/07/2021 9:02 pm, TP wrote:
> Do you think so David? Like most older trams, I would describe the Ringhoffers most kindly as "quaint". My favourites are the American PCC and their derivative, the Tatra T3, and the Sydney R/R1, all first-rate examples of early modernity with high aesthetic quality. However, it's important to preserve representative examples of various types of vehicle throughout history and I admire any example of a fine restoration, whatever the vehicle. The low-floor era has brought more consistent aesthetics, though it's all reached a level of sameness where only the nose cone distinguishes them and there are certainly some ugly doozies among those. The Adtranz Cobra is my favourite example of good aesthetics in a low-floor tram. The fact that they didn't work so well is another subject, something that can't be said of the PCCs, the Tatra T3 and the R/R1!
>
> Tony P
> On Tuesday, 20 July 2021 at 15:40:40 UTC+10dba...@... wrote:
>
> Thanks, Tony. Much nicer looking than the more modern ones I saw
> in Prague.
>
> David
>
>
>> On 20 Jul 2021, at 2:28 pm, TP histor...@...> wrote:
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>> Any excuse for a good tram parade. Leading the parade is no. 18
>> from Pilsen, the oldest operating electric tram in Central Europe.
>>
>> https://www.expats.cz/czech-news/article/parade-of-historical-trams-honors-130-years-on-prague-rails
>> https://www.expats.cz/czech-news/article/parade-of-historical-trams-honors-130-years-on-prague-rails
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>> A fine summer's day for it:
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>> https://scontent.fsyd4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/217713156_4143216382434848_5688233704860129311_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=OWQJ0WiABsIAX_-jGHj&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd4-1.fna&oh=7fd2670dda4621fe0f0b9b08ab0174ff&oe=60FA7930
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>> https://scontent.fsyd4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/217400009_4143216069101546_4036194390772267216_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=5zZFviFZ-RQAX-8do0O&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd4-1.fna&oh=4fa1173d5ed32a537814d5e4d0ed640a&oe=60FC0FCA
>> https://scontent.fsyd4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/217400009_4143216069101546_4036194390772267216_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=5zZFviFZ-RQAX-8do0O&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd4-1.fna&oh=4fa1173d5ed32a537814d5e4d0ed640a&oe=60FC0FCA
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>> https://scontent.fsyd4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/217663901_4143216059101547_3602521447494159218_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=WOzZ4QRrXWEAX-ZuuTs&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd4-1.fna&oh=89d5a5b483a2aa49eb1b47a067744afe&oe=60FBDC4F
>> https://scontent.fsyd4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/217663901_4143216059101547_3602521447494159218_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=WOzZ4QRrXWEAX-ZuuTs&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd4-1.fna&oh=89d5a5b483a2aa49eb1b47a067744afe&oe=60FBDC4F
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>> https://scontent.fsyd4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/218228641_4143215932434893_2779728746671827262_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_rgb565=1&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=viMSal5O4Y4AX9Qk5m0&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd4-1.fna&oh=77e4b0ccd67c6611889a882d30ced19b&oe=60FB759E
>> https://scontent.fsyd4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/218228641_4143215932434893_2779728746671827262_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_rgb565=1&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=viMSal5O4Y4AX9Qk5m0&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd4-1.fna&oh=77e4b0ccd67c6611889a882d30ced19b&oe=60FB759E
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>> The photos at the multi-platform loop are at Prague's equivalent
>> of the Randwick Racecourse station, at Strahov Stadium.
>>
>> Tony P
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