Fw: Re: A puzzle for you
  Jeremy Wainwright

Your back bearing on this is pretty good, Mal, but its elevation is not right. The Boulevard is at river-flat level, hard against the bank rising sharply from the valley floodplain, and in what is 'dead ground' for someone at the viewpoint, which is roughly at the elevation of Burke Rd Nth and I suspect actually a bit to the south, about where Hartlands Rd meets Burke Rd Nth. I lived close by for a couple of years nearly 70 years ago (Burke Rd Nth, between The Boulevard and McArthur Rd, early '52 to late '53) and recall having a similar view from about that spot, in what had been the developed front garden (with a circular concrete-walled pond or flower bed) of Charterisville but was then unkempt open grassed country. At the time, Burke Rd Nth ended in a stub about 100 m long just past McArthur Rd, there was C20 development along the northern side of McArthur Rd and the eastern side of Lwr Heidelberg Rd bordering the remnants of the Charterisville estate. How it was bounded on the north, where Burke Rd Nth now meets Lwr Heidelberg Rd, I don't recall ever knowing. A sandy lane, effectively on the alignment of present-day Hartlands Rd led in from Lwr Heidelberg Rd to the Charterisville house (which I see now has a Burke Rd Nth address) . Only a few years later, certainly by 1958, Burke Rd Nth had been extended through to Lwr Heidelberg Rd and lots of housing development had taken place. Strangely, my old Morgan's street directory, which seems to date from before May 1954 (since it shows a gap in the tramway link between Footscray and W. Maribyrnong) shows the streets in the Charterisville territory pretty well as they are shown in current directories, so perhaps in my time there was some stalled development that had become public enough for Morgan to note it, but pity help anyone who relied on Map 76 in 1952! Apologies for rabitting on OT (as with the State Savings Bank) but it was an inviting rabbit hole!

Jeremy Wainwright
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Subject: Re: [TramsDownUnder] Re: A puzzle for you

On 17/07/2021 06:05, David McLoughlin wrote:

> From the vantage point of the painter, my guess was he took the train

> to Fairfield or maybe Ivanhoe. I'd have suspected the old Outer Circle

> line but it didn't open till the following year IIRC.


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The vantage point was the property "Charterisville" and the actual
viewpoint was roughly at the corner of McCunnin St and The Boulevard in
East Ivanhoe.

The railway to Heidelberg had opened in 1888.

Mal Rowe - getting a sense of history

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