Generally correct except that the road regulatory functions were later
hived off into the Department of Motor Transport and the DRTT became the
Department of Government Transport, which dealt only with government buses
and trams. Private buses came under the DMT. Passenger ferry operations
didn't come into serious government jurisdiction until 1951 when the Sydney
Harbour Transport Board was formed to oversee them - and even then
operation and maintenance were immediately subcontracted to the Port
Jackson & Manly Steamship Co (in case anybody thinks that operational
privatisation is a new thing).
When that great reformist Minister for Transport, Milton Morris, took up
the reins in 1965, he later recalled that he found that Sydney's buses and
trains were operated by "two organisations that didn't even talk to each
other". He was obviously thinking of the big ones. He really should have
said four government organisations! The long-standing exception was the
private ferry (and some private bus) operators who had a long history of
establishing coordinated arrangements, including ticketing, with the
government train and tram operations. The government buses, of course, saw
the private buses as their sworn enemies and didn't entertain any
That great heroic age of Sydney's public transport, where the railways and
tramways achieved all those great things, really came to an end after the
Stevens government (with Bruxner as Transport Minister) left office in
1941. Then came the distraction of war, then the long political neglect and
the emergence of the little independent and uncoordinated transport
fiefdoms that Morris found in the 1960s.
During that latter period, of course, the bus-dominated DGT was heavily
occupied sinking the knives into their tramways, finally succeeding in
their objective in 1961.
On Thursday, 10 June 2021 at 17:08:15 UTC+10a...@... wrote:
> Initially August 5 1930, but then went through various bureaucratic
> contortions ending up as the NSW Government Railways and Department of Road
> Transport and Tramways in May 1932.
> That structure remained till the formation of the NSW Public Transport
> Commission in 1973.
> On 10 Jun 2021, at 4:59 pm, Mal Rowe mal....@...> wrote:
> On 10/06/2021 16:14, Greg Sutherland wrote:
> Although not mentioned specifically Bradfield was also heavily involved in
> the expansion of the NSW Tramways which would have been involved in the "holistic
> design of Sydney’s public transport system."
> When did the NSW government TRAMWAYS separate from the railways?
> Mal Rowe - interested because of a personal theory about influences in
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