Re: Re: Why cities planning to spend billions on light rail should look again at what buses can do
  Robert Bracegirdle

I cannot read on buses without feeling nauseous. Trams and trains fine though. Also no rubber tyre particulate pollution.

Finally the best reason - the fixed equipment tells people there is a service for the foreseeable future. Bus routes come and go.

Robert Bracegirdle

> On 6 Apr 2021, at 07:51, Matthew Geier matthew@...> wrote:

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> On 6/4/21 4:32 pm, TP wrote:

>> Private bus services have typically been more conscious of their passengers and looking after the bus (and they are private operators in Perth too). So you need a combination of good roads and private operation to get the best out of a bus for passengers.

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> Not the two different Sydney suburban private bus operators I grew up with. Operated route buses that belonged in museums and often driven like they were trying to drive a race car. One of my grandparents lived in a STA bus area and I always recalled how much better condition those 'government' buses were over the 'private' ones back home where we lived.

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> The 'private' buses route buses only stopped being rolling museums pieces when the government mandated maximum ages for the active fleet. Shortly after that the wave of consolidations started to happen. Presumably the smaller suburban operations just didn't have enough size to finance required fleet upgrades. Said private operators of my youth are now part of Transdev South, although I think the coach hire operation of one of the 'historic' operators is still around as an independent entity.

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> Now the Sydney bus operators don't even have to raise finance to buy buses, they lease significant portions of the route fleet off TfNSW these days.

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> Don't think it makes one bit of difference if the bus route operator is public or private. What makes the difference is the transport department regulating them.

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> (And a friend was living in Southampton at the height of the British experiment in full bus deregulation. It was chaos)

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