Re: Ron # 71 - L101. F201
  Tony Galloway

There were MCB variants of the Brill 27 truck with drop equalisers for interurban cars as well :

Tony

> On 5 Apr 2021, at 11:12 am, Michael Giddey mikegiddey@...> wrote:

>

> The MCB type trucks with their equaliser bars would have given a superior riding quality compared to the more basic suspension on the Brill 27 and 77 designs.

>

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> Subject: Re: [TramsDownUnder] Ron # 71 - L101. F201

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> On 04/04/2021 18:44, Anthony Dudley Horscroft wrote:

> >

> > Now the question is, why was the L class design considered too

> > expensive so the MMTB built the W1 class?

> >

> The L was built by James Moore and Co. The company was a large timber

> merchant based in City Rd South Melbourne and were the first company to

> build electric trams in Melbourne.

>

> They were very proud of their work and their timber - using the highest

> quality and the most complex joints to show it at its best. They aimed

> to impress - firstly with what became the B class and then the Ls.

>

> Those joints were largely due to the complex curves in the body. See the

> pic attached, showing the drop centre of L 103 at MTPA, Haddon.

>

> One of the ways the MMTB saved money on the W design was to simplify the

> shapes - with straight panels - enabling mass production of timber parts

> rather than hand fitted wood pieces as in the L.

>

> James Moore did build Ws - but the craftmanship required was well below

> what they put into the Ls.

>

> A second was probably to go for licensed manufacture of a mass market

> MCB type truck design rather than the Brill 77E.

>

> Mal Rowe - who thinks that the original MCB pattern truck probably came

> from American Locomotive Co of New York.

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