Re: Ron # 71 - L101. F201
  Anthony Dudley Horscroft

Now the question is, why was the L class design considered too expensive so the MMTB built the W1 class?

Regards

Dudley

On 2/04/2021 10:50 am, Tony Galloway wrote:
> Thanks for posting that John - it would have been a well proportioned, good looking tram.

>

> Tony

>

>> On 2 Apr 2021, at 9:24 am, Radcliffe, John (L&W, Waite Campus) John.Radcliffe@... mailto:John.Radcliffe@csiro.au> wrote:

>>

>> Tony – The design only had access at the ends for the motorman.

>> John Radcliffe

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>> Railway and Tramway World, 13 June 1918

>> *From:*tramsdownunder@googlegroups.com mailto:tramsdownunder@googlegroups.com tramsdownunder@... mailto:tramsdownunder@googlegroups.com>*On Behalf Of*Tony Galloway

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>> *Subject:*Re: [TramsDownUnder] Ron # 71 - L101. F201

>> In “Destination Paradise” there was a drawing of a never built earlier F class design with an arched roof and two doors each side in the drop centre, Brill 77E trucks.

>> I can’t recall whether there were end doors on this design, but it wasn’t built due to WW1 and when the F class eventually got built it had the multi door drop centre and a flat roof similar to the Sydney P class.

>> Tony

>>

>>

>> On 1 Apr 2021, at 4:45 pm, Mark Skinner emessk@...

>> mailto:emessk@gmail.com> wrote:

>> It's quite possible that Pengelly was involved in the

>> conversation as well. It would be interesting to see the

>> correspondence of the day.

>> Mark

>> On Thu, 1 Apr 2021, 3:24 pm Radcliffe, John (L&W, Waite Campus),

>> John.Radcliffe@... mailto:John.Radcliffe@csiro.au> wrote:

>>

>> Do you think Alex Cameron and William Goodman may have

>> compared design notes? The first Adelaide F type “dropcentre”

>> car entered service on 22 May 1922, about 13 months after

>> L101.MTT reports show that there were eight Adelaide F type

>> cars in traffic by 30 June 1922.

>> John Radcliffe

>> *From:*tramsdownunder@googlegroups.com

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>> Featherstone

>> *Sent:*Thursday, 1 April 2021 2:12 PM

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>> *Subject:*[TramsDownUnder] Ron # 71

>> Ron Scholten, who knows a thing or two, has brought it to my

>> attention that L Class 101 entered service - variously put as

>> 13 or 31 April,  in 1921.

>> She is 100 years old!  Alex Cameron, the visionary Chairman 

>> of the PMTT, thereafter the first Chairman of the MMTB,

>> ordered these wonderful cars. Considered ahead of their time

>> when new. When it was decided to build a fleet of 4 motor

>> cars for the MMTB - the L Class design was just too

>> expensive, so a stripped down cheaper car was designed - our

>> wonderful W class and its derivatives.

>> Who would have thought the RAAF has  also has celebrated

>> their centenary at the same time.

>> Happy birthdays all round.

>> A lovely shot from Ron of 101 in the Sth Melb Per Way yard in

>> August 1972.

>> Cheers.

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