What makes this truck different is the use of bolted-up angle iron as the main frame components, rather than the forgings used on the Brill 21E or the rivetted flat iron used on Peckham trucks.
Though I haven’t been able to find a clear photo without the truck overshadowed to check, I wonder if it was the truck for Thomas Saywell's 4 wheel motor car on the Rockdale - Brighton-le-Sands line?
Tony
> On 4 Apr 2021, at 1:33 pm, tramdude@...> tramdude@...> wrote:
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> I was thinking maybe Peckham, but a check against photos revealed major differences. Other options could be Brush, BTH, St Louis or Westinghouse but I have no pictures of them. It could also be a continental truck builder but that would be doubtful for a Sydney car.
>
> Cheers and Happy Easter,
> Mick in wet Brisbane
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> Another difference between this car and the rest of the D's besides the arched roof is the second seat ( nearest the saloon). It appears to be fixed to face the one against the driver's bulkhead. The "standard" D's clearly had tip over seat backs for the second seat so it can face either way. I'm not sure about having traction motors as there appears to be daylight showing below the side number. A motor would block any light there. It looks like a Brill 21E to me. Some of the other D's had Peckham trucks. 123 survived as scrubber car 43s until burnt at Randwick Workshops about 1959. I've seen movie footage of it being rolled over to be burnt and it nearly fell to pieces.
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> On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 00:24:25 +1100, Mick wrote:
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> > Can anyone identify this truck and where it is ?
>
> It's the unpowered truck that was installed under Sydney D Class car
> 123, the only arch-roof D car. The location is the Clyde Engineering
> erecting yard at Granville.
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> See the attached image for the completed car (MAAS)
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