L2 and L3 trams (as well as existing L1) are now live tracked on Anytrip.
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Tony P
On Wednesday, 17 February 2021 at 14:46:13 UTC+11bblun...@... wrote:
> The "whole block" between Hay St (L1) and the Chinatown (L2-3) stops that
> Tony complains about is less than the length of a twin tram set.There are
> plenty of other mode interchanges around that have a much greater walking
> distance.
>
> Interchange between Haymarket stop and Central is now difficult because
> the stairs/escalators from the colonnade to Eddy Ave are closed till the
> end of the year for renovations.
>
> Any new platform would have to be south of Hay St due to the gradient to
> the north of the stop. This would be doable now that there is no traffic
> in this section. But putting in new infrastructure on the platform might be
> a challenge for them.
>
> I have used the Chinatown stop on several occasions, and I haven't found
> any problems with congestion.
>
> Brian, in L3 land
>
> On Wednesday, 17 February 2021, 1:57:25 pm AEDT, 'Richard Youl' via
> TramsDownUnder tramsdo...@...> wrote:
>
>
> The overcrowded Chinatown Centre stop problem could easily be avoided by
> making the existing platform for just one direction, and putting the stop
> for the other direction at a ramped up section of roadway much as has been
> done on some narrow streets in Melbourne and also overseas? This would be
> especially easy to do if the stop is in the recently pedestrianised section.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> On 16 Feb 2021, at 9:51 pm, TP histor...@...> wrote:
>
>
> It'll prick the dreams of those who want to see Citadis on IWLR (and vice
> versa?). Even disregarding the APS, we won't see IWLR CAFs turning north up
> George St at Hay St to run a direct connection from the inner west to
> Circular Quay.
>
> So, accepting separate lines as a given, they then mess up the interchange
> between the two at Hay and George by sticking the George St stop a block to
> the north because that's as close as they can get it because there are
> traffic lanes on each side - so there's a hike between the stops. Because
> of those traffic lanes they also make that George St stop - Chinatown, the
> second busiest - a centre island that can't handle the crowds that use it.
>
> Then, after CSELR has opened, they change their minds and get rid of
> traffic all along George St and turn it all into a plaza, so those
> interchange stops could have been next to each other after all and the
> Chinatown stop could have been side platforms. But it's now prohibitive to
> do that because the tracks and wires have been splayed for the centre
> island and it would all have to be dug up and rebuilt.
>
> There are three possible interchange points between CSELR and IWLR and
> they're all at a distance. Hay St is closest at about 150 metres.
>
> This is just one chapter in the book of CSELR!
>
> Tony P
>
> On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 21:32:47 UTC+11gregsut...@...
> wrote:
>
> I hesitate to say "I told them so" but in my submission to the CSELR EIS
> which was and should still be on the Public Record I pointed out that they
> should not go out to public tender prior to drawing up a set of appropriate
> standards, preferably based on Melbourne's well established standards and
> that they should work with Melbourne to generate overall Australian
> Standards.
>
> I also recall meeting with one of the numerous, revolving door TfNSW CSELR
> Project Managers at one of their public forums and pointing out to him that
> the depot should have exit/entry tracks direct to and from both Anzac
> Parade and Allison Roads. He looked at me as if I was speaking Swahili.
> He obviously did not have a technical clue as to what I was talking about
> nor did he obviously care.
>
> TfNSW still do not have a practical suite of standards for light rail in
> Sydney, let alone New South Wales. They are not an informed buyer of
> appropriate technology and operational practice associated with light rail
> nor are they competent overseers of the contractors delivering multi
> million $ light rail infrastructure.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On 16/02/2021 5:24 pm, TP wrote:
>
> On the Bus Australia forum a member has reported seeing an empty Citadis
> set proceeding late at night along IWLR to the Lilyfield workshops while he
> was at a tram platform. He observed that both the horizontal and vertical
> clearances of the Alstom from the platform were substantial and no way
> compliant for accessibility. It wouldn't have even been possible to get a
> wheelchair on. We've previously heard about this early example of TfNSW
> bungling compatibility and failure to set standards, but it's apparent that
> the practical consequences are not small, but substantial. So it looks like
> it's always going to be one type of tram for the CSELR and another for the
> IWLR. I wouldn't even dare ask what the situation is with the Parramatta
> and Newcastle lines.
>
> Tony P
>
> On Thursday, 10 December 2020 at 19:57:37 UTC+11gol8...@...
> wrote:
>
> Shades of Little Abner. SWINE. Students Wildly Indignant About Nearly
> Everything.
>
> Geoff O.
>
> *From:* TP
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:28 PM
> *To:* TramsDownUnder
> *Subject:* Re: [TramsDownUnder] Re: CSELR
>
> The average university SRC is somewhere over on the far left side of the
> planet and would oppose anything coming from a Liberal government even
> before they put their brains into gear to think about it. I think that UNSW
> study was done before they decided to add an extra car to the trams.
> There's tons of capacity, plus the flows will be counter-peak so they won't
> be competing with city commuters. It's what the line was designed to do,
> the only surprise being that they didn't stop running the university buses
> earlier. There's no serious journey-time issue on this short run from
> Central to UNSW like there is for commuters from further out in the SE
> suburbs.
>
> Tony P
>
> On Thursday, 10 December 2020 at 11:21:56 UTC+11 Matthew Geier wrote:
>
> The uni did its own analysis while the tramway was under construction and
> determined that the Uni alone could soak up 70% of the capacity of the
> system. That's before all the extra densification of development around the
> route and bus transfers are the terminus as proposed. The headline
> basically was - if the government followed through with all the proposed
> rezoning around the tram route, there would no longer be enough capacity
> for the Uni's needs once all those new residents moved in and started using
> the tramway. I think they were calling for the government to revise down
> the number of new units proposed along the route.
>
> The complaints about the buses will be coming from the student politicians
> in the SRC and none of them are probably from the 'built environment' or
> engineering depts. (disciplines that would be able to do a proper analysis
> of transport patterns). Those proto-politicians will be all from the
> disciplines of the social sciences, like 'Political Economy'. (I don't know
> if UNSW has that, the mob I work for do!)
>
> On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 11:03,peterm...@... peterm...@...>
> wrote:
>
> Sheesh, what are the uni carrying on about, the trams have heaps of
> capacity, put your masks on folks.
>
> Peter
>
> On Wednesday, 9 December 2020 at 15:34:22 UTC+11 TP wrote:
>
> Another mob complaining about changing to the tram - an "educated" one but
> with less rational grounds this time. At least TfNSW has argued its case
> with statistics this time instead of just making motherhood statements. Do
> they not teach maths at UNSW nowadays?
>
> [quote]UNSW bus services cut, students instead to catch light rail
>
> Thousands of UNSW students are set to descend on the light rail in the new
> year after news their bus services to and from the CBD will be axed.
> Joanna Panagopoulos
> December 8, 2020 - 1:46PM
> Southern Courier
> People waiting in line for the UNSW express 891 bus in December 2017.
> Picture: AAP/Matthew Vasilescu
>
> UNSW students have expressed anger at a NSW Government decision to cut
> three direct buses from the city to the campus.
>
> On Monday, it was announced that the 891, 893 and 898 express bus routes
> directly from Central Station to UNSW’s Kensington Campus would be
> withdrawn at the end of the term, from December 21.
>
> The UNSW Student Representative Council said in a statement they were
> “firmly opposed to this shortsighted decision”.
>
> “The NSW Government has cynically chosen to review the usage of express
> UNSW bus services in the middle of a once-in-a-century pandemic. To the
> surprise of nobody, they have found that usage of these services has
> dropped dramatically,” the statement continued.
>
> “The NSW Government will push thousands of UNSW students onto crowded
> light rail and public bus services. Even without COVID-19, this would be an
> irresponsible decision. In light of the pandemic, it borders on absurd.”
> The long line to get on the 891 express bus from Central to UNSW.
>
> Students are now being encouraged to use light rail services and other
> regular buses from Central Station.
>
> A Transport for NSW spokesman said: “The light rail was always intended to
> provide services to the UNSW, which is why the Kensington campus is
> serviced by two light rail stops.”
>
> The light rail has been designed to have a maximum capacity of 6,750
> customers per hour from the CBD to Randwick/Kingsford between 7am and 7pm
> (weekdays), the spokesman said.
>
> “This provides ample capacity for the 1500-2000 customers which on average
> catch the 891 bus each hour from Central to UNSW between seven to 11am
> pre-COVID.”
>
> Transport for NSW also said in October 2020, 130 students and staff on
> average caught the 891 each hour between 7am to 11am.
>
> A UNSW spokeswoman said: “It is an important priority for us that the
> University community is easily and safely able to reach campus each day,
> and we continue to work with Transport for NSW on how best to meet the
> needs of our students and staff”.
>
> She added that they had around 60,000 students and 6000 staff on campus in
> 2020, and expected more students and staff to return in 2021 with the
> easing of COVID restrictions.
> [/quote]
>
> Tony P
>
> On Thursday, 17 September 2020 at 20:36:55 UTC+10 TP wrote:
>
> Local MPs Daley and O'Neill have submitted a petition of 20,000 signatures
> to Parliament opposing the bus cutbacks that were to accompany the
> introduction of the trams. That's quite a vote of confidence in the tram
> service (not)!
>
> Tony P
>
> On Sunday, 2 August 2020 at 11:02:23 UTC+10 TP wrote:
>
>
> https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/advertising-blitz-to-warn-people-to-stay-safe-around-sydney-trams/news-story/53a92dc5476f14b8877b6cd5bcf3294c
>
> Advertising blitz to warn people to stay safe around Sydney trams
>
> Too many passengers are risking their lives around Sydney’s network of
> trams by not paying attention to their surroundings. Check out the video of
> near misses.
> *Miranda Wood*, The Sunday Telegraph
> August 2, 2020 6:00am
>
> dailytelegraph.com.au1:51
> CCTV footage of near misses with pedestrians and trams
> Sydney Light Rail drivers are reporting a large number of near-misses as
> people walk in front of trams. Transport for NSW is expanding its public
> safety campaign to prevent th...
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>
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>
> COVIDSafe app helps track down possibly infected people
>
> https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/covid-cases-visit-dozens-of-businesses-across-sydney/news-story/057dd27ad6f33c762d13f393658fbd03
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>
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>
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>
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>
> These are the close-call moments for pedestrians nearly hit by trams —
> while one man wasn’t so lucky.
>
> Three weeks after transport authorities released footage of reckless and
> dangerous behaviour
> http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/light-rail-near-misses-sydneysiders-urged-to-take-caution/video/f174273cd56e34acd8436c14589e8865
> of Sydneysiders around trams, come these even more shocking CCTV images —
> as well as a new safety campaign.
>
> Footage from Lewisham, in Sydney’s inner west, captured a man hit by a
> tram after he walked straight into its path as he was leaving the station.
> [image: Some pedestrians are not paying attention around the Sydney with a
> collision recently in Lewisham.]
> Some pedestrians are not paying attention around the Sydney with a
> collision recently in Lewisham.
>
> In another video at Eddy Ave, opposite Central Station, a tram was forced
> to brake suddenly when a man dashed in front in wet weather at night.
>
> Transport for NSW Greater Sydney chief operations officer Howard Collins
> said Sydneysiders had to “ditch the distractions” with tram drivers
> reporting too many pedestrians were risking their lives.
>
> “A fully loaded tram weighs around 120 tonnes, which is as heavy as a blue
> whale and it can’t stop quickly, needing several metres to stop in an
> emergency,” Mr Collins said.
>
> “People are distracted with mobile phones and take chances dashing across
> the tracks in front of a tram.
> [image: A pedestrian scoots out in front of a tram in George St.]A
> pedestrian scoots out in front of a tram in George St.
>
> “On occasion pedestrians will offer a wave of apology thinking it’s a
> minor inconvenience, but on board that tram is a driver who was forced to
> activate their emergency brakes, potentially endangering dozens of
> passengers in their care.”
>
> Latest figures show since December 1, 179 incidents were reported on the
> light rail including 157 near-misses with pedestrians, vehicles and
> cyclists and 22 collisions — four with people.
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> Of the near misses, nearly 70 involved pedestrians with most narrow
> escapes occurring in the CBD and Surry Hills.
>
> Mr Collins said: “Trams are quiet and we have a tram every four minutes
> between Circular Quay at Moore Park and every eight minutes in the
> southeast, so it’s important for pedestrians to watch out for oncoming
> trams and only cross the tracks where it is safe to do so.”
> [image: Another passenger is putting himself at risk at Central Station.]Another
> passenger is putting himself at risk at Central Station.
>
> An advertising blitz warning pedestrians, cyclists and motorists to stay
> safe around trams will start on Sunday with Transdev Sydney Light Rail
> chief officer Brian Brennan saying: “If everyone remembers to: ‘Look left
> and right, check for trams,’ we can prevent people walking into the path of
> trams”.
>
> “We have had far too many near-misses, particularly involving pedestrians,
> and we urge everybody to remain aware of their surroundings when travelling
> on and around our network.”
>
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