I avoid the D's like the plague. I avoid the C's with slightly less plague.
I, like Mal, prefer the B's or Z's by a country mile. Don't get A's or E's
out North Melbourne way. :-) (Nor I suppose up Avenel way either.)

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On Sat, 20 Feb 2021 at 11:29, Mal Rowe mal.rowe@...> wrote:

> On 19/02/2021 18:43, Yuri Sos wrote:

> > Siemens sold Swanston Trams what they ordered: it was incompetent

> > muppets in the private companies set up by Herr Kennett who couldn't

> > specify their way out of a paper bag. Similarly we're stick with crap

> > Citadis for the same reason.

> >

> To be fair, at the time that M-tram ordered the Combinos and Yarr

> ordered the original Citadis trams they were the current design.

>

> The Combino Plus (later called "Avenio" after the Combino name became

> sales poison) was a later design to overcome some of Siemens' design

> problems.

>

> IMHO the biggest problem of the Siemens design is the severe level of

> intrusion into the passenger compartment by the bogies - a problem

> shared with the CAF design but overcome in other designs by (in order of

> success - low to high) Alstom, Bombardier and Skoda.

>

> Mal Rowe - who always hopes for a B in Sydney Rd

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