This is similar to the Citadis Spirit for Ottawa which is similar to the
Skoda Forcity Smart which is similar to the E class. In essence, it's
nothing different from the E class except in details. Almost any
manufacturer will provide this format if that's what the customer wants -
or they may want a different format next time around.

I hope those on this forum who, in the past, wondered what the need for
level access is because they hardly ever see a wheelchair on a tram will
take note of Figure 1H on page 20 of the auditor's report. And that's
without mentioning people not classed as disabled but still having mobility
issues and parents with prams.

The people to blame for this situation are various Victorian governments
over the years who have not bothered to address the needs of the Melbourne
tram network. There are other issues too like traffic priority.

Tony P

On Saturday, 28 November 2020 at 16:39:58 UTC+11a...@... wrote:

> Maybe this is a clue, given the Alstom-Bombardier merger, to what the next

> lot of Melbourne trams will be based on :

>

>

> https://www.railway-technology.com/news/germanys-kvb-places-e363m-order-to-procure-64-citadis-type-trams/?utm_source=Army%20Technology&utm_medium=website&utm_campaign=Must%20Read&utm_content=Image

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> Tony

>

> > On 28 Nov 2020, at 3:37 pm, Mal Rowe mal....@...> wrote:

> >

> > Victoria's DoT has been criticised in a damning report by the Victorian

> Auditor General for lack of even a plan to meet disability access

> requirements on trams.

> >

> > The report is at:

> https://www.audit.vic.gov.au/report/accessibility-tram-services

> >

> > A pdf of the report is at:

> https://www.audit.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-10/20201015-Accessibility-Trams-report.pdf

> >

> > VAGO says that: "DoT does not have conclusive plans for how it will

> create an accessible tram network, 18 years after DSAPT was established.".

> >

> > The attached chart from the report shows what would be required to meet

> the legislated targets of stops compliant by 31 Dec 2022 and trams

> compliant by 31 Dec 2032 compared to current levels of progress.

> >

> > There's an interesting comment on p63 of the report: "An interactive

> design process is underway for the Next Generation Tram involving major

> rolling stock manufacturers who are working with DoT to design a tram that

> will be suitable for Melbourne’s network, as well as meet DSAPT

> requirements." In a later paragraph there is reference to the need for

> funding in the 2020-21 budget to allow this to proceed - funding that is

> now presumably in place.

> >

> > Mal Rowe - who sees this as a landmark report.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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