Re: Hundred New E class Trams for Melbourne Australia
  TP

A few manufacturers make the same design, but it would usually be aluminium
skin to keep weight down. Fibreglass plug-in cabs are pretty standard
across the industry. The Skoda model of this design is called Forcity Smart
and it's in or coming to a number of cities across Europe. Browsing through
IRJ for double-ended versions, I see that the model for Pilsen (22 29 metre
trams) costs $AUD 2.8 million per tram including maintenance contract and
training. Another version for RNV in Germany (80 trams with supercaps, of
which 31 30 metre, 37 40 metre and 12 60 metre) averages about $AUD 5
million per tram, presumably with maintenance.

Tony P

On Saturday, 28 November 2020 at 15:04:59 UTC+11 Mal Rowe wrote:

> On 28/11/2020 14:41, TP wrote:

> > At a calculated guess, I would say that the raw cost of each E, being

> > a bespoke design with four bogies, is probably about $AUD 1 million

> > more than that of a 30 metre off-the-shelf Citadis or CAF. In Europe,

> > the latter would cost in the range $AUD 3-4 million. In Australia

> > something north of that. So for the E, maybe it's around $AUD 5-6

> > million or so?

>

> It may be more. There's a news report in IRJ from 2018 at:

>

> https://www.railjournal.com/regions/australia-nz/more-bombardier-e-class-trams-for-melbourne/

>

> It quotes a price of $8.3M each (10 trams for $A83M). That's not likely

> to include items like depots and substations, but would be likely to

> include a maintenance contract.

>

> The bespoke design features which Melbourne is prepared to pay for

> include rotating trucks, 'plug-swappable' cabs and a fully stainless

> steel body - with the exception of fibre glass cab ends and cast steel

> bolsters.

>

> Mal Rowe - expecting the Es to outlast him by several decades

>

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