Re: Re: [Eurotrams] Hundred New E class Trams for Melbounre Australlia
  TP

Sometimes, in PR terms, it pays for an agency to announce the actual tram
cost, because what I saw several years back in many international
discussions were comparisons of costs of various tram models and the E
would feature at the top of the list as the most expensive. Which of course
the media would pick up and ....! In fact, it's uncommon to get a cost
figure now outside Europe because there are other things included like
maintenance contracts and so on. Also, trams are often included in a
consortium build and operate contract and the tram price is concealed in
the overall figures.

At a calculated guess, I would say that the raw cost of each E, being a
bespoke design with four bogies, is probably about $AUD 1 million more than
that of a 30 metre off-the-shelf Citadis or CAF. In Europe, the latter
would cost in the range $AUD 3-4 million. In Australia something north of
that. So for the E, maybe it's around $AUD 5-6 million or so?

Tony P
On Saturday, 28 November 2020 at 12:44:37 UTC+11 Mal Rowe wrote:

> On 27/11/2020 19:23, Geoff Olsen wrote:

>

> Just out of interest how much does an E cost delivered and ready for

> service?

>

> That's about as easy to work out as it is to compare various electricity

> retailers' options!

>

> If you took the $1.48B for the project and divided it by the 100 trams.

> they would be $14.8M each!

>

> However, there are a lot of other costs to get a tram in service,

> including:

>

> - Acquiring land for and building depots or depot extensions.

> - Acquiring land for and building substations.

> - Additional maintenance facilities.

> - Service for a period of the tram's life included in the purchase

> price.

>

> I recall finding some of this info to answer an earlier query on the

> initial order of 50 E class, but I can't find it on TDU now.

>

> One thing I do recall was that the Preston Workshops upgrade was around

> $100M.

>

> Mal Rowe - who does not doubt that the E's are more expensive than a

> production line Citadis, but trusts the locals to choose wisely

>

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