Melbourne has so many redundant tramway poles where new ones have been
installed. Some have been completely denuded of wires by all authorities,
but they still sit there waiting for the big claw to arrive and pull them
out.
Andrew.
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 18:25, Hal Cain hegcain@...> wrote:
> I have noticed sometimes that when tramway span poles had to be replaced
> (on account of corrosion or collision damage) the tramway span wires had
> been shifted but the pole stood there for several days, waiting for the
> electric supply wiring, and/or street lights, to be shifted. Since I'm no
> longer a Melbourne resident, I can't say whether this still happens!
>
> Do electric supply utility companies now pay for the tramway poles they
> hang their wiring from? Or vice versa when the tramways (as the MMTB
> sometimes did in the 60s-70s) shift their overhead to SEC poles and remove
> their own poles? The original overhead wiring on the last section of the
> North Balwyn route made extensive use of SEC poles. Way back in the past,
> before the MMTB, some municipal councils which were members of tramway
> trusts (Melbourne, Brunswick, Footscray, Preston, Northcote, Coburg) also
> ran the electricity supply to their areas. On the Essendon lines, the NMETL
> ran the trams and the electricity supply. They had interests in both
> electricity and tramways.
>
> Hal Cain, now in an area with mostly underground electric supply, but no
> tram overhead at all
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 5:52 PM Mal Rowe mal.rowe@...> wrote:
>
>> Tram systems like Melbourne and Toronto are often called 'legacy
>> systems' - and it's not a compliment.
>>
>> However, the legacy is real and includes the sharing of assets with
>> other utilities.
>>
>> A power pole was being replaced near my place today and Yarra were there
>> transferring span wires across to the new pole.
>>
>> Mal Rowe - who thinks that's probably a fairly efficient use of an asset
>>
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