Sydney's Town Hall Station was frighteningly busy when we used it on a
couple of occasions. It was worse than what we've experienced in London or
New York, both of which I think know better about crowd control.
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On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 15:28, Dudley transitconsult@...> wrote:
> But if I recollect, the worst station is Town Hall, because of so many
> people changing trains, so there is always a large number alighting and
> equally large number boarding. ISTR that someone, forget who, did some
> timing at TH and reckoned that most trains dwelt for about 55 secs, and
> only a few over 60.
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> Regards
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> Dudley
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> *From: *'Richard Youl' via TramsDownUnder
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> *Sent: *06 July 2020 20:45
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> *Subject: *[TramsDownUnder] Sydney and Melbourne trains.
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> Daniel’s interesting paper has prompted me to edit a video taken last
> February in Parliament station for comparing with Wynyard Dwell and
> Headways during PM peak hours.
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>
>
> In the past there has been lots of postulations, theories, and all sorts
> of other comments about how double-decker trains are so uselessly slow with
> their boarding but this pair of videos shows that there is practically
> nothing in it.
>
>
>
> Note also that nearly all the Melbourne trains have three doors per
> carriage per side which doesn’t seem to help much speed the loading. Apart
> from the problems caused by the late Wynyard train, there’s not much
> difference in the headways either.
>
>
>
> So the bigger trains with more seats must be clearing a greater number of
> people from the stations, generally without adding much to the dwell times
> or headways at all and providing a seated ride for a much higher percentage
> of the riders.
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>
> I left Parliament about 5:30 pm and it seemed by this time the peak hour
> had just about fizzled out while in Sydney at that hour things were still
> reasonably busy.
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> I chose this platform at Parliament as the final underground stop before
> heading to Richmond, not unlike Wynyard heading for the North Shore.
>
>
>
> The Parliament Dwell and Headway times are below, starting about 5:05pm.
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> 43 secs. -
>
> 50 secs. 3:00
>
> 44 secs. 3:00
>
> 38 secs. 3:05
>
> 30 secs. 2:30
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> 48 secs. 3:48
>
> 36 secs. 3:00
>
> 31 secs. 2:33
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> Averages. 40 secs. 3:00
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>
> Wynyard. Dwell. Headway Starting from 8 minutes into
> the video.
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> 37 secs
>
> 45 secs
>
> 45 secs
>
> 39 secs. 3:13
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>
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> 65 secs
>
> After a gap in the service of about 8 minutes, right at the busiest time
> of the peak,
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> 1’ 45 secs. 3:55
>
> 63 secs 2:48
>
> 46 secs. 2:20
>
> 46 secs. 2:32
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>
>
> So you can see that many of the Wynyard trains dwell for 45 seconds, which
> is quite comparable with the 40 seconds average in Melbourne. It’s a pity
> that the late train disrupted the dwell times for the next few trains
> behind it.
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> Parliament Station
> https://youtu.be/mg6CDzbPQYE
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> Wynyard Signals & Headways
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> https://youtu.be/-9p_izlNrTs
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> Regards,
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