On 3/07/2020 5:37 pm, Greg Sutherland wrote:
> Worldwide most of the new trams being ordered much larger than the E class.

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> By present day standards the E is a small to medium model.


Is this because of infrastructure problems outside of Yarra Trams area of responsibility?

If there are problems such as you suggest perhaps the Victorian Government has a need to take responsibility.

Greg

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> On 2/07/2020 4:45 pm, espee8800 wrote:

>> Having travelled a little on the E's in the city in peak hours, the advent of these monster trams creates another safety problem.  How do passengers leave the tram stops after about 10 or more have alighted.  The best example (or should it be the worst) is Bourke St at Spencer St where the traffic lights do not permit the entire tram load to get across safely and before you know it another E has arrived with another 100 odd passengers.  Passengers are fenced in to avoid getting in the way of Bourke Street traffic.

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>> At least at Collins & Spencer Sts there is easier access from the tram stop and passengers heading to Spencer Street railway station can get across to the footpath in Collins St and then wait to cross to the station.  At Bourke St legally you need to wait on the tram stop until Spencer Street traffic gets a green and then you can cross to the footpath.   Bourke & Spencer Sts is crying out for a fully pedestrian phase like Elizabeth & Flinders Sts. But the city fathers don't seem to care and we know that VicRoads don't care.

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