Re: Fwd: More sad news from Toronto
  Mark Skinner

Most if those are bus already. (As of a few weeks ago).

On Thu, 11 Jul. 2019, 12:36 am Greg Sutherland, < gregsutherland@...> wrote:

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>

> Talk is 505, 511, 502 and 503 will be bus until more cars arrived late

> 2020, if then. A few lines may see buses also to help with the ridership

> and headway.

>

> With TTC doing this, they have to order more buses to meet the need for

> buses on the road considering TTC was to decease the fleet in 2022 with the

> opening of the Crosstown line. If TTC has to add more buses over what they

> have, they need another bus garage and no land to build on for it. TTC

> needs to add those buses to their 5 & 10 year budget. TTC McNicoll garage

> that is to open in 2020 was a 5 year process and over $300 million to build

> as a P3..

>

> TTC Is screw one way or another thanks to Ford budget cutting.

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> *From:*

> *Subject:* RE: Thunder Bay: The End of BBD Thunder Bay Plant About To

> Happen In 2020????

>

>

>

> sounds like some lines will be "bussed" long term as Ford gets his way

> via the back door.

> P3 has been a disaster where ever it has been used for more than a few

> years

>

> Bob

>

> >

> > At this time, Thunder Bay only has 99 more bi-level cars for GO Transit

> and 37 LRV's for TTC to be built by year end or first quarter of 2020.

> There is nothing else in the pipeline in the way of orders for this plant

> at this time.

> >

> > BBD doesn't have a good track record with TTC for both the LRV's as well

> the new TR subway train. It has been stated a number of time by Toronto

> City staff that BBD be bar from bidding on the next order of subway cars

> that has been pushed down the road thanks to Ford budget cutting. Even more

> LRV's has been pushed down the road.

> >

> > GO Transit can't order more cars until the P3 contract is awarded that

> will cover the RER 15 minute service on all lines by 2024 as well

> electrification. Ordering new equipment for the existing system and the RER

> will be handle by the P3 winning who will said what is needed to meet the

> 2024 time frame, as well down the road.

> >

> > There is talk that BBD is pushing the Innovia Platform built at

> Millhaven's (Kingston) Plant for Toronto Ontario Line in place of a subway.

> >

> > The plant is about 110 years old and costly to ship to/from the plant

> >

> > Dave

> >

>

> https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/doug-ford-federal-government-bombardier-1.5206537

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