On 20/04/2019 23:05, espee8800 wrote:
> The one platform stop that is a big big problem, and a change to the traffic light cycle would fix it, is that the side platforms with their narrow ramps lead onto a cross pathway which you need to wait for the lights to merely get to the footpath and then you have to wait for a further traffic light cycle to get across Spencer Street to the station.    If an all pedestrian clear cycle could be switched on (like the bottom of Elisabeth Street at Flinders Street) the huge number of passengers spilling off the trams from the city centre could clear the platform stop quickly and safely whereas these days passengers milling and jostling around moving trams is in my view unsafe.

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> Above: Bourke & Spencer St cnr.  Below: Elizabeth & Flinders St cnr.

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I certainly agree with your observations about Spencer St David.

The access for passengers leaving the trams in Bourke and Collin Sts to go to Southern Cross station is very congested.

One of the key issues is the tramway curves which constrict the 'sheep races' from tram platforms towards crossing Spencer St.

The attached pic showing the Bourke St instance shows how narrow that path is, and the crossing requires passengers transferring between tram and train to make two crossings - much better to have it as you describe..

It could be widened by eliminating one westbound lane in Bourke St at the corner, but that would be a big argument for PTV to win.