Re: Re: 1024 and its lamps [Was: Unidentified adverting tram, 1974]
  Tony Galloway

Did freight car 17 ever advertise anything other than Fuller’s Brushes ?

Tony

> On 10 Feb 2019, at 6:31 pm, Malcolm Rowe mal.rowe@...> wrote:

>

> No, the lights on 10 and 11 were just for visibility. The freight car (17) carried advertising, but not illuminated as it only ran in daylight hours..

>

> From Mal in transit

>

>

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> But weren't also 10W and 11W advertising trams? I remember seeing one of them very brightly lit, and I think I also saw one - may

> not have been the same - with AOA.

>

> Regards

>

> Dudley Horscroft

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>

> Hi all,

>

> The unidentified advertising tram (1974) shown in Rod Smith's happy snap is SW6 935. Here's a happy snap of it in Swanston Street at

> Lonsdale Street, heading to Moreland, on 9 February, 1974. At this time, there were 3 advertising trams--Nos. 900, 935 and 1024,

> running around Melbourne. Nos. 900 and 1024 had fluro lights along the roof line, No. 935 didn't. My records call it 'the 2004

> tram'. Also note the typical 1970's letter spacing (kerning) on the front signs--tight and touching; which made words a jumbled

> mess!

>

> Cheers,

> Andrew Cook (glad to solve the problem).

>

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> Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2019 10:35 PM

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> Subject: Re: [TramsDownUnder] Re: 1024 and its lamps [Was: Unidentified adverting tram, 1974]

>

> There were no ‘Decorated’ trams with only incandescent lamps when I started on the job in 1987, but as below, there was still at

> least one in 1979.

>

> As for the fluorescent cars having some incandescent lamps, these were for voltage/current reducing purposes, the equivalent of

> ballasts on those lamps running off 240 v in the home.

>

> From a driver: “There were certainly two illuminated trams in operation at the same time. The light bulb tram did not change every

> set of points, only some. I remember the ones to turn into Domain Road would change. I think it was the Johnnie Walker advertising

> tram. I was driving a south bound fluoro illuminated route 69 tram, probably 1024 and at the corner for Burwood and Glenferrie Roads

> the back swing of a turning truck or van wiped out a heap of the lights. The driver did not stop. They were interesting to drive at

> night as everything around you was lit up. There were massive change end rotary switches, and the on off switches were like the W

> line breaker switch and dire warnings to change ends for the lights. I can't remember if anyone bothered and the fluoro tubes did

> get black at the ends.”

>

> Regards,

>

> On 9 Feb 2019, at 5:40 pm, Mal Rowe mal.rowe@...> wrote:

>

> > On 09/02/2019 18:16, Mal Rowe wrote:

> > Correcting myself ...

> >

> > According to the text in Norm Cross's (unpublished) W tram book, 1024 was converted to flouros in 1974.

> >

> Checking again, I think at least the date of conversion is wrong, and perhaps (as I originally suggested) it may not have been

> converted at all.

>

> 1024 is seen in the attached pic dated 1979 (and another I have dated Dec 1980) still with incandescent lamps.

>

> The tram is at Newport, so when I'm there next, I'll have a look.

>

> Mal Rowe - grateful for David Featherstone's careful record keeping and great photos

>

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