Re: Re: Sydney Metro Promotion begins

Hi Bob.
100 km/h maximum speed, though future orders for future lines may be 130
km/h. The station spacings on the NW line are more like the Joondalup line
than the Mandurah line so 100 is pretty adequate. Acceleration/deceleration
should be brisker than in Perth but we'll see. Dwell time should be very
smart. Rouse Hill-Chatswood is 35 mins for 33 km and 10 intermediate stops
not counting termini. Performance will be close to Perth standard with
journey times a good several to ten minutes faster than any equivalent
Sydney Trains suburban service over the same distance/ number of stops/
track profile. Some comparitive times for the same distance are below. A
travel time calculator is on this page:



Perth-Clarkson: 33 mins, 9 stops.

Perth-Kwinana: 28 mins, 6 stops.


Blacktown-Redfern: 41 mins, 7 stops; 47 mins, 13 stops; IC 32 mins, 1 stop.

Cronulla-Redfern: 43 mins, 8 stops.

Central-Hornsby via Strathfield: IC 37 mins, 4 stops.

Central-Macquarie Fields via East Hills: 40 mins, 7 stops.

(Sydney Metro projected time for 33 km: Rouse Hill-Chatswood: 35 mins, 10


Seaford-Mile End: 48 mins, 21 stops; 43 mins, 13 stops.

Adelaide-Munno Para (diesel): 43 mins, 13 stops.


Ferntree Gully-Parliament: 43 mins, 10 stops.

Southern Cross-Dandenong: 47 mins, 16 stops.

Flinders Street-Werribee: 42 mins, 9 stops.

Tony P

On Tuesday, 15 January 2019 13:34:47 UTC+11, Bob Pearce wrote:

> Hi all,


> What is the maximum speed for the trains, and what is the rate of

> acceleration/deceleration?


> What is the allowed for dwell time at each stop? How far are the stops

> apart and how many are there?


> How much time is allowed to unload and load at the terminal station?


> Given there are no crews on the train, the turnaround time is not governed

> by a driver walking from one end of the train to the other, so I suppose in

> theory the turnaround time could be as little as 30 seconds.


> If say, the max speed was 60kmh, the train would take 36 mins not

> including stop/start/dwell etc., but of course the train will not be

> running non-stop from one end of the line to the other.


> After all, this is supposed to be a commuter service.


> Therefore one would need around 9 trains in each direction – 18 plus one

> at the terminal at one end or the other (whichever).


> However, the higher the speed allowed, the less number of trains required,

> BUT, there are other factors that may impact as well.


> What say you, Tony P, have you worked out whether the equation worked out

> by the boffins is near the mark?


> Perhaps I am off the mark given that I don’t know the factors needed to

> work out the equation.


> Cheers


> Bob in Perth