Melbourne Flinders St.
  Roderick Smith

Shoddy journalism, from a lady who has never been to any of them, with a clickbait heading.
Cleaning Flinders St is a start.
Making it useful is tricky, and involves undoing a lot of the Liberal/PTV disasters.
Smith plan for the completion was based on Kobenhavn.
Build an H or 8 shaped raft above the platforms (ie two voids).  Put all of the booth-style gimmicks up there.  Link it across Flinders St to Elizabeth St.
Reactivate pfm 12.
Build the original competition-winning arch.

Roderick

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The world’s coolest train stations leave Flinders St for dead.
Herald Sun December 5, 2018.
video: Japanese Vending Machine Shows Coffee Being Brewed April 13.
When we lost our kiosks and dimmies at Flinders St station, it was practically a citywide outrage.
Let’s face it, that was the best trackside entertainment we had going, and the replacement — vending machines — don’t quite cut it.
But transport bosses really should have looked overseas for inspiration.
From pop-ups in converted toilets to a full-on botanic garden and shopping centres to put Chaddy to shame, here are the craziest things you’ll find in a train station.
And they beat our vending machine hands down.
SLICE OF PARADISE
Atocha station, Madrid. Spaniards can get taste of the tropics with their train travel thanks to this jungle-style garden inside one of the capital’s biggest train stations.
Thousands of plants make up the indoor parkland, with turtles living in the ponds below, surrounded by restaurants and even a nightclub.
The former platforms inside the grand main building were turned into this oasis 1992.
Ah the serenity: This tropical garden inside Madrid’s Atocha train station is a breath of fresh air. Picture: iStock
“EKI NAKA” — LIFE INSIDE THE STATION
Japan. If you had to live inside a station, the one to pick would surely be Tokyo’s rabbit warren of a main station.
Check into one of two hotels, sample some of the city’s best ramen, hit an underground street devoted to cartoon characters — all of this inside a train station.
Of course, the Japanese are the ones who really took stations to the next level, even using a word for the acres of shops and restaurants behind ticket barriers: Eki naka, or roughly, inside the station.
Tokyo Station’s “character street” houses more than 20 shops, each one dedicated to an individual cartoon character like Pokemon or Hello Kitty.
The best ramen restaurants from across Japan have set up shop in “Ramen Street” inside the station, where hungry workers can wait over an hour for a dish at their favourite stall.
Some stores have sweet treats that are only available at Tokyo Station outlets, drawing in souvenir shoppers as well as commuters.
And if that’s not enough to dent your bank balance, there’s 13 floors of a major Japanese department store attached to the station.
Tokyo station’s grand facade, the Tokyo Station hotel takes up the higher floors.
Tokyo Station averages 420,000 people a day and is far from the city’s busiest. Larger stations include Shinjuku station, where one station-side mall alone has 300 shops.
Millions of people use Shinjuku Station in Tokyo every day.
They’ve even used space under the railway tracks to create shops.
Between Asagaya and Koenji stations in the city’s west is a strip devoted to anime, with everything from stores to cafes.
POP TO THE LOO
Old St station, London.  Pop-up shops and retail are a huge money-spinner for British rail authorities, but few are cooler than the niche underground spaces inside Old St station, in the city’s creative-meets-tech hub of Shoreditch.
Want a cold-pressed juice and a new hoodie on the way home? A former men’s toilet now delivers. Further down, an actual hole in the wall dishes out Brazilian cheese balls or cinnamon buns as new food offerings rotate through the site. Even Jamie Oliver’s brands have given this the tick of approval.
IGNORING WINTER THE CANADIAN WAY
Montreal.  In a city with intense winters (think -25C to -30C at its coldest), you’d be forgiven for staying underground until it passes.
So it’s not surprising they’ve built 33km of tunnels to connect malls, offices, a convention centre and even a university to their metro system.
La Ville Souterraine, or the Underground City, began in the 1960s and now connects seven stations and thousands of stores.
Locals can go to work, shop and head home almost entirely underground, with everything from cinemas and art to an ice-skating rink safely tucked under cover.
* Bonjour et bonsoir at Complexe Desjardins; more than a mall, it's a civic centre and showcase of cooperative values. La Ville Souterraine, Placedes Arts, Montreal, Quebec.
PUTTING OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD
Flinders Street, Melbourne
While the on-platform kiosks are mainly gone, the ongoing refurbishment of Flinders St station has given the Melbourne landmark a much needed lift.
And it might be some consolation for the lost dimmies if the once-grand ballroom is reopened to the public again.
The recent works have made its roof watertight, but what becomes of the space is still up in the air.
Flinders St Station’s ballroom.
It sits under the light coloured roof on the left side of picture.
FLINDERS ST KIOSKS OUT, MACHINES IN.
KIOSK CLOSURE STUNS COMMUTERS.
FLINDERS STREET’S LATEST REFURB.
THE STATION’S HISTORY IN PICTURES.
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* Second bite: It is impossible to list a ten most of anything, and this journalist didn't succeed with her station choices.  I doubt that she has visited any of them.
She devoted three photos to London Old St, an underground station like Flagstaff, and didn't read the review: 'A ghastly place. No amount of vinyl wall wraps, pop up shops can offset the labyrinthine misery of confused day trippers, insouciant commuters, aloof hipsters and troubled addicts who ebb & flow here' .  She ignored Flinders St having a cinema museum on two platforms, and a long bar on another, and Degraves St subway.  Most of the photos in the article weren't stations at all: they were under the forecourt and nearby streets in cities with freezing and windswept weather.  She could have looked at Kobenhavn, or Hamburg, or Dusseldorf, or Stockholm, or Dresden for inspiration.  Not one of the recent competition entries was worthy of consideration: self-indulgent architects making 'statements' to each other, and not fit for purpose.  Believe in those designs when one is built to link Parliament House with St Patrick's Cathedral.  The original completion winner, never completed, is the only one worthy of consideration today.
* I think that Southern Cross should have the botanical example above garden inside there to bring some nature and soak up the diesel. Its incredibly doom and gloom in there and a hideous design that doesn't light the station at all.
Other option to brighten it up would be to install LED lighting nets on the inside of the roof like Like London has with Kings Cross to provide some colour in there.
Flinders Street related. I think the big goal should be to improve the surface on the platforms and replace those tiles as they are slippery when wet. A big canopy roof over it that lets in light unlike Southern Cross, and a more modern concourse.
The loop stations are dirty and filthy and need a clean and lick of paint.
* Anything you do to Flinders Street Station should have a "Whole Of Station" approach. In 2013 there was a competition for improvements to the station of which one fantastic concept was selected. Nothing has been done since.
Google it for more details.
* About the only relevant example was Tokyo Shinjuku.
First and foremost the train has to be able to move suburban passengers and trains efficiently.  That has been destroyed progressively since the 1990s by removing capability, and the removal of the kiosks is a further step.
Luckily, the disaster remaking competition was abandoned.
What we don't need is a repeat of Melbourne Airport: an overpriced supermarket.
* What's at Flinders St station, lots of commuters, whats missing, trains. Actually the worst thing is the underpass from the Yarra to Flinders St, dirty and disgusting.* The inaction on and continuing disrepair of Flinders St station is a blight on our city and multiple Governments on both sides.
I see people lining up to take photos of the steps, and I can only think to myself "Whatever you do, don't go in" because inside it's essentially a giant toilet. It's an embarrassment.
If we're looking at examples for inspiration, the ones suggested here are WAY out of reach because they rely on a modern, agile system, which we simply do not have.
All we can do is clean the place so that the inside matches the grandeur of the outside (think Grand Central in NY or 30th St in Philadelphia), and fix the infrastructure so that it doesn't fall apart, and daily "traffic jams" are a thing of the past.
* I don't often get the train and haven't for many years, however I recently caught the train from Melbourne Central to Flinders St and I was absolutely shocked at how dirty and unkept they all are.  I'd find it quite depressing to trudge through those stations every day on my way to work.  Rather than throwing millions on paint for the outside, how about a good deep clean on these stations?
* What's at Flinders St station, lots of commuters, whats missing, trains. Actually the worst thing is the underpass from the Yarra to Flinders St, dirty and disgusting.
* The inaction on and continuing disrepair of Flinders St station is a blight on our city and multiple Governments on both sides.
I see people lining up to take photos of the steps, and I can only think to myself "Whatever you do, don't go in" because inside it's essentially a giant toilet. It's an embarrassment.
If we're looking at examples for inspiration, the ones suggested here are WAY out of reach because they rely on a modern, agile system, which we simply do not have.
All we can do is clean the place so that the inside matches the grandeur of the outside (think Grand Central in NY or 30th St in Philadelphia), and fix the infrastructure so that it doesn't fall apart, and daily "traffic jams" are a thing of the past.
* A reliable train system is what's missing at Flinders Street.
* Down the Spencer St end there was a verandah that has been half demolished since forever. The Ballroom has been on every ones agenda since Adam was a boy. The building is great but the inside is a shell.
* Like the garden at Atocha station in Madrid. But with the Over the top political correctness, lack of law enforcement, and the absence of courts imposing real penalties, if we had that at Flinders St it would just become a hangout for druggies and a new squat for the professional homeless.
* Dan will run a skyrail straight through that ballroom.
* Flinders Street Station is nothing more than a nice facade, but is the same tired place it’s been for 50 years.
* I wrote to Kennett as a school student lamenting at all the wasted rooms at flinders station saying a backpackers or hotel should be there to earn the state revenue. He liked the idea yet 20 years on we still have the whole station with. Wasted space,
* I’d be happy to be rid of myki.
* In my experience the Tokyo and Shinjuku stations are more like Melbourne Airport than Flinders St.
* Never going to happen in Melbourne...our Govt. Authorities just don't have the imagination.
* No new roof. Stands out like the a dog's...
* Let’s start with trains that actually run to their time table.
* Totally agree about Japan's stations and as for the vending machines, there are hundreds in the stations and on the streets NONE have been vandalized so they all work properly and the stations nor the trains have been vandalized either. You can set your watch and find the train arrives and leaves exactly at the scheduled time. I have not used the ticketing system like MIKI or Octopus but for a one off ticket it is so simple and quick. Melbourne is way behind in so many respects.
* yes and their car industry thrives even though they pay much higher salaries, maybe the issue is lazy westerners expecting everything without putting anything in.
* As you approach Flinders from a distance it looks like you're approaching a grand station. Upon arrival you realise you are wrong. The fact that nothing of substance has been done with the amazing ballroom area is mindboggling. In a city where city real estate is a premium and entertainment options pop up every week, how this space was left to ruin is staggering.
It really wouldn't take much effort to make Flinders St Station an attraction to all, just some leadership to actually make it happen.
* It's an historic and heritage listed building. it doesn't need demolition they just need to invest the appropriate funds to restore it instead of little dribs and drabs. Its going to be the main station of what will soon be the most populous city in Australia and compared to other capitals will be an embarrassment if they leave it as it is.
* What can one say, it's simply embarrassing! The state government should be ashamed, trying to present this to the world as first class, banging on about the world's most liveable city year in year out, just get real. And now we finally get rail to the airport, and where do we go?, via Sunshine of all places, bewildering.
* I suggest that you leave and live somewhere else that is not so embarrassing and bewildering for you? I'll stick with the iconic Flinders Street Station which I find appealing.
* Best thing that could happen to Flinders Street is it's demolition, but we all know that'll never happen.
* One basic thing Flinders St is missing is cleanliness...everywhere you go smells of urine.
* The biggest thing missing from our stations are train that run on time, a lot of the time it is just missing trains.
* About the only relevant example was Tokyo Shinjuku.
First and foremost the train has to be able to move suburban passengers and trains efficiently.  That has been destroyed progressively since the 1990s by removing capability, and the removal of the kiosks is a further step.
Luckily, the disaster remaking competition was abandoned.
What we don't need is a repeat of Melbourne Airport: an overpriced supermarket.


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