Re: What lies beneath?
  espee8800

Just a slight adjustment here, Victoria does not have fettlers. All track
gangs consist of a number of repairers with a ganger in charge. In charge
of a number of gangs is the Road Foreman.

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On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 at 18:25, William Jackson apairofjacks@...>
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> When, no idea Glen, I only gleaned this information from track gangers

> (fettlers?) when they’ve travelled with me.

>

> I was a bit incredulous that they were that long but having paced a few

> out I’ve come to the conclusion that what I’ve been told must be correct.

> Maybe the heavier rail dictates a greater length?

>

> William

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> *From:*tramsdownunder@... [mailto:

>tramsdownunder@...] *On Behalf Of *Vera Mills

> *Sent:* Monday, 3 December 2018 2:41 PM

> *To:*tramsdownunder@...

> *Subject:* Re: [TramsDownUnder] What lies beneath?

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> Hello William,

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> When did this change?

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> That is why I said Victorian Railways.

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> Regards,

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> Glen

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> On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 at 13:10, William Jackson apairofjacks@...>

> wrote:

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> Glen

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> Normal practice on the railways of Victoria is a minimum length of 6 metres

>

> William

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> *From:*tramsdownunder@... [mailto:

>tramsdownunder@...] *On Behalf Of *gleng20.mills

> *Sent:* Monday, 3 December 2018 11:43 AM

> *To:* TramsDownUnder tramsdownunder@...>

> *Subject:* Re: [TramsDownUnder] What lies beneath?

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> Hello Mal,

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> Normal practice in the past with Victorian Railways was to use a minimum

> closure length of ten feet.

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> The problem with Thermit welds joining non-matching rail sections together

> is purely with the moulds as it must conform to each rail section.

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> Regards,

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> Glen Mills

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> On Saturday, 1 December 2018 15:02:00 UTC+11, Mal Rowe wrote:

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> On 01/12/2018 09:07, Dale Budd wrote:

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> There are many dipped welds in this area but this joint is special.

> Evidently it is a repair of a previous fault but the job was botched. A

> metre of replacement rail has been inserted, apparently not properly

> supported. The extent of the insertion and patched paving is shown in the

> attached photo from a slightly different angle.

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> Short patches like that are still current practice. I have seen many of

> them done recently in Raleigh Rd, Maribyrnong and last year in Dawson St

> Brunswick.

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> However, Thermit welds are no longer used - the joints are arc welded with

> side and base plates (as seen in the attached pic).

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> The change may be due to problems with Thermit welds in such joints, but

> is more likely due to the impossibility of doing a Thermit weld with rail

> cross sections that don't match.

>

> Mal Rowe - noting that these joints are temporary, but that can mean years.

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