You would also need to place the conversion of the 1880s built Loftus Junction to Royal National Park train line to a tramway line in 1993 by the Sydney Tramway Museum between Port Melbourne/St Kilda and Darling Harbour.
Greg
who was Project Manager for the conversion 25 years ago!
On 13/11/2018 10:15 am, Ronald Besdansky wrote:
> The first example of a railway to tramway conversion in Australia - followed by Port Melbourne, St Kilda and Darling Harbour. Like the first two, involved change of gauge from 1600 to 1435 mm.
>
> On Tue., 13 Nov. 2018, 10:03 Mal Rowe mal.rowe@... mailto:[email protected] wrote:
>
> The Glenelg tramway was built in 1929 and replaced a former steam
> railway to Glenelg. of the 1880s
>
> The H class trams were the only trams to run regular services from
> 1929 until the Flexities arrived in 2006.
>
> There are several good books about the line, the most recent of
> which is City & Glenelg by Brian Andrew.
>
> Mal Rowe - occasional passenger
>
> On 12/11/2018 21:13, Geoffrey Hansen wrote:
>> What were the first trams in the Glenelg area? Were there horse
>> trams? A coastal steam tramway? Or were the H class electrics
>> in 1929 the first?
>>
>> Regards
>> Geoffrey
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>> *Subject:* RE: [TramsDownUnder] Re: Tramway Turntables
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>> The Adelaide and Suburban Tramway Company had quite a few
>> turntables on its routes for turning its single-ended horse cars.
>> These are denoted by circles on the late Chris Steele’s track map
>> of Adelaide’s horse tramways (attached). Some depots also had
>> them – see small inset diagrams
>>
>> John Radcliffe
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>>
>> Turntables have a distinguished place in tramway history as
>> pretty-much the first method of turning a tram. Other early
>> methods included pivoting the body on the chassis and swinging it
>> around the other way. It wasn't until the 1860s that horse trams
>> were redesigned by turning the stairs/entrances to the sides so
>> that the horse could be attached to either end. Although Sydney's
>> Bridge St turntable was a pretty late entry, I wonder if it was
>> the first (or only) turntable in Australia to be used in actual
>> passenger operations, as opposed to workshops etc?
>>
>> Tony P
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