And heck. The Kiwis are into it already!
https://busck.co.nz/products/infrastructure/kessel-kerbs/
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 1:45 PM Mark Skinner emessk@...> wrote:
> That's why God invented Kassel Kerbs. They are specifically designed for
> use with buses to avoid the problem you mentioned. Not hard to retrofit
> either. A product suitable for local precast concrete manufacturers to make
> too.
>
> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 1:32 PM John Wayman john.wayman@...> wrote:
>
>> Back in the days of the M&MTB buses could substitute for trams in
>> Melbourne and run through tram stops without a problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> However in recent years the Melbourne authorities have constructed tram
>> platform stops that are not designed to be compatible with buses. The
>> platform edge projects out and is liable shred bus tyres and to be damaged
>> by them. The space between the platforms isn’t wide enough for buses to
>> manoeuvre through easily, especially with the all the traffic calming
>> devices that make tram platforms something to be avoided. Bus drivers have
>> specific instructions to not drive through tram platforms.
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course some platforms do need to be passed through by all traffic e.g..
>> the narrow section of ridge Road Richmond), and these are of a different
>> platform face.
>>
>>
>>
>> As Mark Skinner points out, this isn’t a problem where cities construct
>> platforms for dual use. Rome and Paris immediately come to mind. Tram lanes
>> in Rome are marked BUS not tram.
>>
>>
>>
>> Attached is a photo of trams and buses sharing a stop in Paris,
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> John Wayman
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:*tramsdownunder@... tramsdownunder@...>
>> *On Behalf Of *Mark Skinner
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 11 September 2018 5:08 PM
>> *To:*tramsdownunder@...
>> *Subject:* Re: [TramsDownUnder] Tramway trivia - another Melbourne rarity
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there a reason for that policy?
>>
>>
>>
>> A tram/bus Vienna stop in Warsaw using Kassel curbs...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018, 2:35 PM Mal Rowe mal.rowe@...> wrote:
>>
>> Melbourne has a clear policy of not sharing tram and bus stops.
>>
>> The only shared stop I was aware of was in Queensbridge Rd, near the
>> casino, where there is limited space.
>>
>> I have just noticed another - only one stop away from 'my stop' in
>> Essendon.
>>
>> The orange and green stop markers indicate it's for buses and trams.
>>
>> It's the last bus stop on the Ivanhoe to Essendon Station route and
>> would almost only ever be a set-down stop for buses.
>>
>> Mal Rowe - plumbing the depths of trivia!
>>
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