Re: Tramway trivia - another Melbourne rarity
  Mark Skinner

That's why God invented Kassel Kerbs. They are specifically designed for
use with buses to avoid the problem you mentioned. Not hard to retrofit
either. A product suitable for local precast concrete manufacturers to make
too.

On Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 1:32 PM John Wayman john.wayman@...> wrote:

> Back in the days of the M&MTB buses could substitute for trams in

> Melbourne and run through tram stops without a problem.

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> However in recent years the Melbourne authorities have constructed tram

> platform stops that are not designed to be compatible with buses. The

> platform edge projects out and is liable shred bus tyres and to be damaged

> by them. The space between the platforms isn’t wide enough for buses to

> manoeuvre through easily, especially with the all the traffic calming

> devices that make tram platforms something to be avoided. Bus drivers have

> specific instructions to not drive through tram platforms.

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> Of course some platforms do need to be passed through by all traffic e.g.

> the narrow section of ridge Road Richmond), and these are of a different

> platform face.

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> As Mark Skinner points out, this isn’t a problem where cities construct

> platforms for dual use. Rome and Paris immediately come to mind. Tram lanes

> in Rome are marked BUS not tram.

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> Attached is a photo of trams and buses sharing a stop in Paris,

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> Cheers

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> John Wayman

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> *From:*tramsdownunder@... tramsdownunder@...> *On

> Behalf Of *Mark Skinner

> *Sent:* Tuesday, 11 September 2018 5:08 PM

> *To:*tramsdownunder@...

> *Subject:* Re: [TramsDownUnder] Tramway trivia - another Melbourne rarity

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> Is there a reason for that policy?

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> A tram/bus Vienna stop in Warsaw using Kassel curbs...

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> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018, 2:35 PM Mal Rowe mal.rowe@...> wrote:

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> Melbourne has a clear policy of not sharing tram and bus stops.

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> The only shared stop I was aware of was in Queensbridge Rd, near the

> casino, where there is limited space.

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> I have just noticed another - only one stop away from 'my stop' in

> Essendon.

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> The orange and green stop markers indicate it's for buses and trams.

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> It's the last bus stop on the Ivanhoe to Essendon Station route and

> would almost only ever be a set-down stop for buses.

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> Mal Rowe - plumbing the depths of trivia!

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