Unfortunately the quality of this image is a bit lacking Brent. Otherwise
it would be perfect for Wellington.

On Wed, 12 Sep 2018, 6:46 AM 'Brent Efford' via TramsDownUnder < tramsdownunder@...> wrote:

> The ability of low floor trams and buses to share the same stops would be

> an essential attribute for light rail if it is ever to come to pass in

> central Wellington. In some places that ability would be necessary for

> tram-bus interchanges, because there would be no space for separate

> platforms.

>

> I took photos of buses and trams sharing the same stop in Jetty Rd,

> Glenelg, in 2012 to make the point. No opposing platform in that particular

> case.

>

> Brent Efford

>

>

>

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> On 12/09/2018, at 8:53 AM, Mark Skinner emessk@...> wrote:

>

> Here's another image from Warsaw showing the clearances.

>

> Possibly the Polish drivers are better trained than the Aussie suburbans.

>

> My brother drove country buses of the Greyhound etc etc variety for years,

> and is a driver trainer. I asked him about the feasibility of passing

> through tram stops like this. He just guffawed and said that many outback

> roads in Queensland at one time were about that lane width, and passing at

> 80-90kph wasn't unusual.

>

> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018, 5:00 PM 'Richard Youl' via TramsDownUnder <

>tramsdownunder@...> wrote:

>

>> This was discussed a couple of years ago and there are couple of reasons

>> for this.

>>

>> The most important one is that the opposite tram platforms are too close

>> together for a vehicle the width of a bus to legally go through.

>>

>> Also it would mean training all bus drivers to go through the stops

>> particularly in tram replacement situations and it’s not worth training

>> hundreds of drivers who may need to use that knowledge once in a blue moon.

>> That’s what a worker in the operation section told me.

>>

>> Regards,

>>

>> On 11 Sep 2018, at 5:07 pm, Mark Skinner emessk@...> wrote:

>>

>> Is there a reason for that policy?

>>

>> A tram/bus Vienna stop in Warsaw using Kassel curbs...

>>

>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018, 2:35 PM Mal Rowe mal.rowe@...> wrote:

>>

>>> Melbourne has a clear policy of not sharing tram and bus stops.

>>>

>>> The only shared stop I was aware of was in Queensbridge Rd, near the

>>> casino, where there is limited space.

>>>

>>> I have just noticed another - only one stop away from 'my stop' in

>>> Essendon.

>>>

>>> The orange and green stop markers indicate it's for buses and trams.

>>>

>>> It's the last bus stop on the Ivanhoe to Essendon Station route and

>>> would almost only ever be a set-down stop for buses.

>>>

>>> Mal Rowe - plumbing the depths of trivia!

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