This is what Poznan and Wrocław did under the same circumstances. They took
two of their Z equivalents, chopped one end off each, hung a low floor
section between them, and ended up with a 3 section Moderus artic. New
controls and some panel beating added as well.
Mark Skinner
On Sun, 12 Aug 2018, 11:10 PM Prescott lenkaprescott@...> wrote:
> The Bs are the youngest candidates for this and plans were drawn up by
> Comeng, but that was rejected as being uneconomic a decade ago. The Zs are
> much older and don't seem to be promising the rugged longevity that enable
> certain European models to be adapted in such a way, even after many
> decades of service life. What model and what age are those Poznan and
> Wroclaw trams?
>
> Tony P
>
> On Sunday, 12 August 2018 18:47:27 UTC+10, Mark Skinner wrote:
>>
>> Why not convert the Zs like has been done here, showing before and after
>> shots in Wrocław and Poznań?
>>
>> Two of these Z equivalents had their rear ends chopped off, and a low
>> floor section hung between. Obviously not as good as a 100% low floor, but
>> still pretty good.
>>
>> Mark Skinner
>>
>> On Sun, 12 Aug 2018, 6:23 AM Mal Rowe mal....@...> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/08/2018 1:50 PM, Prescott wrote:
>>> > As far as I can see, neither of them is promising any new trams beyond
>>> > the current deliveries.
>>> >
>>> Correct, and that's disappointing as I assume that Bombardier will shut
>>> down the E class production line once E2 6080 is delivered. We are up
>>> to at least 6067 in service (see attached pic), so that can't be long
>>> off.
>>>
>>> The government has instead committed to a full refurbishment of the
>>> fleet, but that's just 'kicking the can down the road' if the final
>>> exemptions for the DDA end by 2032, only 14 years away.
>>>
>>> To replace nearly 300 non-compliant trams would require over 20 low
>>> floor trams per year if we started now.
>>>
>>> I suspect the big issue is not only the cost of the new trams, but the
>>> cost of depots and substations to support them.
>>> Of course smaller new trams simply replacing trams of the Z and A
>>> classes would be less demanding on infrastructure, but with Melbourne
>>> population within the 'tram zone' growing rapidly, that's not likely to
>>> satisfy demand in the future.
>>>
>>> Mal Rowe - part of the team refurbishing the old fleet
>>>
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