Matthew, I do have a google id and when I sign in now it just gives a long list of all kinds of stuff, I don't have time to wade through all the gibberish, I have better things to do. Yes I know what FB is like and have been a member for some time, no matter what group you are on, your info is harvested for their own profits.
But having been a moderator on this group in the past and a member since it almost from when Peter created it, please don't presume to lecture me on my choices.
Greg