Re: Re: Re: Fish Market name?
  espee8800

This might also help somewhat although I now get worrying messages about
account update for displaying images - nothing to do with me I might add
but for the person concerned who originally saved them I guess. You all
might have more luck.

Exploring the rest of Walking Melbourne is also enjoyable. Pity these
large size images are being displaced by the stamps at FB.

http://www.walkingmelbourne.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4750

On 18 January 2018 at 15:37, 'Kevin Taig'ktaig@... [TramsDownUnder]
TramsDownUnder@...> wrote:

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>

> Hi Mal & All,

>

> WE are fairly sure that the orange line was part of the Flinders St to

> Spencer St Tram way.

> This was the first connection between the East & West systems.It was

> replaced by the first viaduct

>

> Traffic on this tramway was after dark but the problem of inebriated

> sleeping persons caused the trams extra grief.

> We think that the siding in the Cool stores was the “King St loop on this

> tramway .

>

> Agree with Dean’s route around Flinders St Ext. but have been unable to

> resolve the route where it entered Flinders St yard, near the swinging

> basin.

>

> A lot of this came out in Mark Bau’s Victorian Railways forum. It went on

> for several months and covered the 2 markets, the docks, the power station,

> the FSS –SSS tramway,

> the gas works and not forgetting the hydraulic system. Unfortunately all

> of this research and comment did not survive a computer crash. Big big

> Bugger!!

>

> The attached photo shows the Cool Stores under construction with the fish

> & game market nearing completion behind it.

> After the construction of the second viaducts, the curved arches were

> replaced with steel and brick piers..

> The brick piers stand on wooden piling which was as deep as 80 feet near

> King St, and they are still there today – of course.

>

> Regards

> Kevin

>

>

>

> *From:* mailto:TramsDownUnder@yahoogroups.com

> TramsDownUnder@...>

> *Sent:* Thursday, January 18, 2018 10:05 AM

> *To:*TramsDownUnder@...

> *Subject:* Re: [TramsDownUnder] Re: Re: Fish Market name?

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>

>

> On 18/01/2018 9:37 AM,alcollier@... [TramsDownUnder] wrote:

> > Just a couple of notes to contribute to this discussion from my own

> research and a copy of the VR file for the branch, hopefully some help:

> >

> >

> > * The Gov't Cool Stores / Fish markets sidings were close to, but not on

> the previous VR ground-level Spencer St - Flinders St connecting line

> >

> >

> > * Full size VR wagons were shunted in and out of the orange lines on the

> coloured diagram provided in the prior post. there was a crossover between

> the lines not shown on this diagram

> >

> >

> > * Most operations were undertaken in the very small hours of the night

> to avoid traffic issues

> >

> >

> > * As far as I can tell full size VR wagons did not traverse the very

> tight S-bend to the Fish & Game Markets rather small four wheel trolleys

> were pushed. These are shown in several pictures inside including (I think

> from SLV collection):

> >

> >

> Agreed - and here's another pic from the SLV showing the interior of the

> Cool Store building - from SLV as usual.

>

> Mal Rowe, who does wonder if the oddly configured tracks in the Fish and

> Game market were a left over from the former ground level connection

> between Flinders St and Spencer St stations

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>

>


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