Re: Re: Re: Fish Market name?
  Kevin Taig

Hi Mal & All,

WE are fairly sure that the orange line was part of the Flinders St to Spencer St Tram way.
This was the first connection between the East & West systems.It was replaced by the first viaduct

Traffic on this tramway was after dark but the problem of inebriated sleeping persons caused the trams extra grief.
We think that the siding in the Cool stores was the “King St loop on this tramway .

Agree with Dean’s route around Flinders St Ext. but have been unable to resolve the route where it entered Flinders St yard, near the swinging basin.

A lot of this came out in Mark Bau’s Victorian Railways forum. It went on for several months and covered the 2 markets, the docks, the power station, the FSS –SSS tramway,
the gas works and not forgetting the hydraulic system. Unfortunately all of this research and comment did not survive a computer crash. Big big Bugger!!

The attached photo shows the Cool Stores under construction with the fish & game market nearing completion behind it.
After the construction of the second viaducts, the curved arches were replaced with steel and brick piers..
The brick piers stand on wooden piling which was as deep as 80 feet near King St, and they are still there today – of course.

Regards
Kevin

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On 18/01/2018 9:37 AM,alcollier@... [TramsDownUnder] wrote:
> Just a couple of notes to contribute to this discussion from my own research and a copy of the VR file for the branch, hopefully some help:

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> * The Gov't Cool Stores / Fish markets sidings were close to, but not on the previous VR ground-level Spencer St - Flinders St connecting line

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> * Full size VR wagons were shunted in and out of the orange lines on the coloured diagram provided in the prior post. there was a crossover between the lines not shown on this diagram

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> * Most operations were undertaken in the very small hours of the night to avoid traffic issues

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> * As far as I can tell full size VR wagons did not traverse the very tight S-bend to the Fish & Game Markets rather small four wheel trolleys were pushed. These are shown in several pictures inside including (I think from SLV collection):

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Agreed - and here's another pic from the SLV showing the interior of the
Cool Store building - from SLV as usual.

Mal Rowe, who does wonder if the oddly configured tracks in the Fish and
Game market were a left over from the former ground level connection
between Flinders St and Spencer St stations

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