When I first visited TTC they were a very impressive and professional operation.

Over the years they have fallen away to a real cowboy operation,thanks in part to an ex London Transport carpetbagger (from Sydney Trains and now on his way to New York!).

TTC is currently having to bustitute a route due to insufficient trams (excessively late delivery of Canadian built Bombardier LRVs and meanwhile scrapping current trams).

Their conversion from trolley pole OH to pantograph is years behind program.  They would be the only first world system that has not completed conversion to pantograph operation.  And their system is much smaller than Melbourne (well done GTCOTS).

When one looks at their track replacement program - time taken to replace time expired track-  compared to Melbourne you are comparing a weekend's work (Melbourne) with a month's work (Toronto) and in Toronto massive traffic disruption on city streets for weeks on end.

Greg

Matthew wrote:

"> Attempting to load Toronto LRV 4000 onto a low loader for scrapping.

> Looks outright dangerous to me.

And the truck probably suffered damage too. Pretty poor showing on the
part of the machine operator. Obviously the wrong tool for the job.

>


> I guess the TTC doesn't have a loading dock...


>


The must some where as they are getting new trams delivered. You can't
spear them with a super-sized forklift to move em :-)"