Re: Sydney''s Altom Citadis X05 - Special viewing
  Robbie Smith

That explains a lot. I've often wondered how high quality German
engineering could produce a dud like the Combino. The 5 section ones are
the worst, with that grating rattling sound they make with their square
wheels. I've heard they're just as bad in Germany and Amsterdam.

Robbie

On 26 Aug 2017 9:33 AM, "[email protected] [TramsDownUnder]" < TramsDownUnder@...> wrote:

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> CAF are actually among the beneficiaries of the German tram industry's

> professional diaspora. When Bombardier and Siemens had a brain fart of

> extra greed and brought in the "management experts", they decided they

> didn't really need the professionals they inherited from Duwag and Tatra.

> So those retrenched professionals went away and started up consultancies

> who sold their expertise to new entrants to the industry in various other

> countries. From the vacuum left behind by their absence from the German

> industry emerged such brilliant products as the original Combino ....

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> Tony P

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> ---InTramsDownUnder@..., <matthew@...> wrote :

> Alstom have been at it longer - CAF are still way back in the learning

> curve. Melbourne's 202 (C) are truly horrible trams, but later variants

> of the 'X02 series' were significantly better riding than those 202s.

> The latest version of a 302 (same family as the Melbourne C and C2

> classes) I've ridden on, (Montpelier) ride significantly better than the

> earlier modes in the same series - in particular almost no waddle at speed.

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