Hi Pete,
Did you make any decision about a Wolverine?
So far after a fair bit of scanning, I have only one non-serious gripe.
Regards,
Richard
> On 11 Aug 2017, at 15:43, 'Hunslet'hunslet@... [TramsDownUnder] TramsDownUnder@...> wrote:
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> Correct – wide stock – such as heritage single decker F1, can only run as far as Emu Plains.
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> I thought that “they” might have been able to run the Oscars as far as the new (RMS funded) turnback facilities at Lawson, but as far as I am aware, these have not been used at all since the works were completed a couple of years ago.
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> I think they can get a Tangara or Oscar to Springwood. Beyond is the problem:.
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> https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/projects/current-projects/new-intercity-fleet-program-springwood-to-lithgow-rail-corridor https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/projects/current-projects/new-intercity-fleet-program-springwood-to-lithgow-rail-corridor
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>> So to bring a Tangara to say Springwood would they just need to replace signals and cut the platforms back.
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>> Would much cutting back of platforms need to be done and if so at what stations?
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>> On 11/08/17 10:53, Robert Taaffertaaffe9@... mailto:rtaaffe9@gmail.com [TramsDownUnder] wrote:
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>> > Most engineers DO NOT GO into such ventures with their eyes closed and
>> > you can bet that the track alterations were in the original submission..
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>> That the engineers made.
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>> Doesn't mean the politicians that called for the order to be made even
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>> All they care about is the next press release.
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>> Implementation is some one else's problem.
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>> I quite believe that at the political level, originally no money was
>> allocated for gauge enhancement.
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>> Sooner or later gauge enhancement work would have been needed, the other
>> two routes out of Sydney under the wires were widened out years ago to
>> take medium width stock, only Katoomba west had been ignored. Until now.
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>> It wouldn't have been such an issue if Baird hadn't made a song-n-dance
>> about saving money by buying 'standard off the shelf trains'. By doing
>> so the politicians have set them selves up for ridicule when the media
>> latch onto the gauge enhancement works required. So much for cheaper
>> 'off the shelf' trains if you have to spend money else where to make the
>> tracks fit them.
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>> Even if the whole concept of buying cheaper 'standard' trains is a sound
>> idea, and that the gauge enhancement really is needed to bring that line
>> up to a common standard, put the two together with the way the
>> government went on about their 'savings by using standard trains' and
>> they have a media feeding frenzy about inappropriate spending and poor
>> budgeting / project management. Any merits of the original proposals get
>> lost.
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