I went to get off a bus in the Sydney CBD recently through the centre
door, and there is a seat right on the edge of the footpath lined up
with the door. Took some fanciful footwork to get around the seat
safely.

I advised the STA and their response was "Council put the seat there,
nothing to do with us". So I contacted the council, and their
response was "STA/TfNSW have 'style guides' for street furniture at
bus stops and this seat complies with that."

That was a couple of months ago, I haven't used the stop since to see
if this had been fixed, but guessing not.

Brian

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Subject:[TramsDownUnder] Re: Vienna stop?

Platform stops are designed for low-floor trams. Any easing of access
to a high floor tram they provide is a bonus. So here's a ULF at a
drive-over platform:
http://www.historyworks.com.au/ViennaPlatform2.jpg [1]
One matter that may present some initial confusion is that ULFs have a
very low floor, so the platform only needs to be kerb-height, about
150 mm rather than the approx 300 mm typical for other modern
low-floor trams. This is why the platforms in Vienna look lower - they
*are* lower.
I have no problem with Melbourne's use of the "flapper" bollards on
the outer edge, except for one issue: are they clear of the tram
doors? If you you have a standard vehicle in your fleet, it's easy
enough to design for this, but if the fleet consists of different
vehicles with doors in all sorts o f different places, then there is a
fair likelihood of one or more of these bollards being smack bang in
the middle of a doorway, which is a particular problem if you have a
wheelchair or pram for example.
Still, Melbourne would probably have nothing on this one from my album
of transport design clangers:
http://www.historyworks.com.au/Nowra1.jpg [2]
http://www.historyworks.com.au/Nowra2.jpg [3]
This is at the entrance of a Stockland shopping centre. The approach
to the stop is wheelchair accessible, the timetable display is
thoughtfully set at a level that wheelchair users can use, the bus is
a low-entry with a wheelchair ramp .... then they do this!
This was designed by Stockland's a rchitects but it was also approved
by the local council, so there are two guilty parties. The sort of
thoughtlessness we are always up against.
Tony P
---InTramsDownUnder@..., wrote : Is that really a
platform stop?
If so, it must be for the ULF trams as it does not even reach the
lowest step height of the high floor tram in the photo.

Mal