I was sad to learn of Bill McNiven's death.
Five years ago when I posted on TDU, my picture of Sydney 'P' 1509 at
Birchgrove, he responded to note the advertisement of his family's ice cream
business on the corner store at the right.
Noel Reed.
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[O/T] McNiven''s Ice Cream (was Re: Birchgrove)
From: Bill McNiven Date: 8-Feb-2008 12:31 am
First, thanks to Noel for the first Birchgrove line photo I've ever seen.
Second, thanks for the memories of Maxam's cheese -- so delightfully sticky
and tasteless that I would get it in school lunches and throw it away before
I got to school.
Third, McNiven's Ice Cream [I think Paul was angling for this].
My Great Grandfather, William McNiven (1854 - 1936), emigrated from Glasgow
to New South Wales, arriving on the Lanarkshire in August 1874. The
Immigrants Register gives his occupation as "Engineer". He joined the NSW
Government Railways at Singleton, and eventually retired as Divisional
Locomotive Superintendent Eskbank on 30/4/1910, coinciding with the closure
of the Lithgow Zig Zag. He's the man in the hat in the well-known pictures
of a B class loco hanging over the cliff at Top Points.
Two of his sons, Charles Robert (1887 - 1967) and Ronald James (1889 - 197?)
saw war service at Gallipoli and in the Somme. Family oral history says
that, after discharge in London at the end of 1918, they travelled to
Chicago and worked at an Ice Cream factory. Returning to Sydney around 1921,
they built their own Ice Cream factory in Salisbury Road Camperdown and
launched "American" Ice Cream in Sydney for the first time. This business
continued until around 1956. When Peter's and Streets were just producing
bulk ice cream, they introdced chocolate-coated creations like the "Triple
Treat" in the 1950's.
In the mid 1950's, first Streets, then McNiven's, was bought out by
UniLever. I think McNiven's closed ca, 1957. The McNiven's brands were then
produced at the Streets Turrella factory and the Camperdown site closed. "R
J McNiven's Cones" was a separate operaton and lasted a little longer.
This is completly off-topic because Salisbury Road Camperdown was never on a
tram line. [But it has been on bus route 412 at least since 1932.]
The next challenge for the Melbourne buffs is "Trams passing Amscal Ice
Cream signs" (another departed Ice Cream brand!).
Cheers,
Bill
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I don't know why, but I missed this when it happened.
I worked with Bill at the Electricity Commission. I still use his
password-generator. No, I'm not saying how it works but, given our common
interests, it's not hard to guess! Put it this way, when I discovered the
password for a system I needed to access was "Military", and then I found
out who was in charge of the system, it made sense!
He also programmed the line-printer of our IBM 1401 Computer to play
"Anchors Aweigh" and other tunes as part of its turning-off ceremony,
probably about 1982.
Great bloke. We also shared a liking for 'felis domesticus'.
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> Hello everyone>
>
> I just want to place on record our sadness at the passing of Bill McNiven
..
> I knew him from school days at Shore, and the Shore Railway Club where he
> was a stalwart, like many of us I owe much of my (albeit limited)
knowledge
> of trams and railways to Bill. Well I remember his planning ability when
> arranging Shore Railway Club tours in the early sixties .. how proud he
was
> that he'd arranged for an interurban set to travel through the Sydney
> underground. His tours by CPH are long remembered. >
>
> I'd not seen Bill for nearly fifty years when we met at the Sydney Tramway
> Museum in February . I'm so glad we had a chance to chat then.>
>
> A sad passing>
> John Cowper >
>
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> Bass; Gleadall, Peter; John.Hearsch@...; ktaig@...;
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> I'm very sad to have to report that Bill passed away early today at Nepean
> Base Hospital having lost his battle with cancer.
> >
> Bill was my friend for almost 50 years and I'll miss him.
>
> I'm sure every one of you has a memory of Bill that surfaces regularly, be
> it his intellect, his passion for and intimate knowledge of trains and
> railways or trams and tramways, or his brilliant and sometimes scary wit
as
> evidenced in the still often talked about Ales Digest satire of 1969.
> I understand that funeral arrangements will be private, but should that
> change, I'll update.
>
> My deepest sympathies to Ian, Margaret and Jill.._,_.___
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