They was once a sign on a short pole in the 'six foot' but after it was knocked over it was removed and never replaced.
Ted
--- On Thu, 30/12/10, Brian Blunt bblunt@...> wrote:
From: Brian Blunt bblunt@...>
Subject: RE: [TramsDownUnder] Re: SLR and heritage trams
To:TramsDownUnder@...
Received: Thursday, 30 December, 2010, 7:04 PM
The section between George St and Thomas St is also part of a traffic road. There is no signage to indicate to northbound traffic turning left out George St that they can’t drive on the tracks. All that is visible is a median strip with a traffic light pole, which in normal circumstances any normal driver would tend to keep to the left of.
From:TramsDownUnder@... [mailto:TramsDownUnder@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Ofprescottt@...
Sent: Thursday, 30 December 2010 6:49 PM
To:TramsDownUnder@...
Subject: [TramsDownUnder] Re: SLR and heritage trams
.......apart from which Hay St between Pitt and George is still classed a public road, not a mall. I'm not even sure if the section past Paddy's has been reclassified. As far as the police, who were the authority setting the limit, were concerned it is a public road.
Tony Prescott
--- InTramsDownUnder@..., "Brian Blunt" <bblunt@...> wrote:
>
> The section along Hay St between Pitt and the up ramp could be classified as “on street†??
>
> There is also a short section between Parker St and Parker Lane which is “trafficableâ€
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> From:TramsDownUnder@... [mailto:TramsDownUnder@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ted Gay
> Sent: Thursday, 30 December 2010 6:04 PM
> To:TramsDownUnder@...
> Subject: Re: [TramsDownUnder] Re: SLR and heritage trams
>
>
>
> They is no, NO on street running in Sydney. From Pitt Street to the ROW it is a Mall.
>
> Ted
> Ding ding
>
> --- On Wed, 29/12/10, prescottt@... <historyworks@...> wrote:
>
> From: prescottt@... <historyworks@...>
> Subject: [TramsDownUnder] Re: SLR and heritage trams
> To:TramsDownUnder@...
> Received: Wednesday, 29 December, 2010, 3:14 PM
>
> Reviewing the discussion Bill, I was talking about using
> acceleration/deceleration to bring a tram up to line speed quickly in order to
> raise average speed and shorten journey times. You introduced the topic of
> areas of high pedestrian activity. The conversation then became a
> characteristic desultory Internet conversation - which doesn't worry me at all.
> Ultimately I think it is up to the discretion of the driver, which point
> highlights the official hypocrisy in Sydney that trams have a street limit of
> 20 kph while buses are allowed 50 (or whatever is posted), trusting the no-less
> professional bus drivers to use their discretion. What's good for the goose is obviously not good for the gander in the eyes of NSW Transport.
>
> Acceleration in the context of a mall is likewise discretionary, as I observe in
> Bondi Junction mall. If the driver sees the way ahead is clear he puts the foot
> down, otherwise he accelerates cautiously, waiting for any pees to clear out of the way.
>
> Apart from this my original point referred to the majority of the SLR which is
> on ROW.
>
> Cheers
> Tony Prescott
>
> --- InTramsDownUnder@... http://au.mc330.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=TramsDownUnder%40yahoogroups.com , Bill Bolton <billbolton.email@> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 22:36:23 +1100, Hunslet wrote:
> >
> > > In those days, people were aware of trams and IF they stepped in the
> > > way, the tram driver would give a quick "ding-ding" on the gong as
> > > a warning.
> >
> > Its quite unclear what Tony's real issue is. One moment is
> > acceleration rates, and the next its track speed through
> > pedestrianised areas.
> >
> > Either way, the issue for pedestrians is more about the rate of change
> > in vehicle speed than it is the absolute speed. Any road vehicle that
> > is changing velocity *quickly* is a danger to pedestrians in CBDs,
> > while moderate changes in velocity are generally not a problem....
> > this is nothing new, its always been like that.
> >
> > > To crawl along through the Haymarket streets at walking pace is ridiculous.
> >
> > You must be able to walk very quickly indeed then, as the ~20kph rate
> > is a far faster than walking!
> >
> > > If/when the Light Rail extends to Circular Quay, it will need to operate at
> > > normal vehicular speeds, otherwise it will quickly become a white elephant!
> >
> > What do you consider to be "normal vehicle speeds"?
> >
> > In both the Sydney and Melbourne CBDs they are quite slow for road
> > vehicles, and the continuing road traffic management trend globally is
> > to reduce the speed of all road vehicles in areas where pedestrians
> > are about.
> >
> > Segregated rights of way are a different proposition... but it remains
> > to be seen what, if anything, is going to actually happen regarding
> > LRT in the Sydney CBD.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > Bill Bolton
> > Sydney, Australia
> >
>