Re: Re: Brisbane residents ditch public transport and get back in their cars Now Australind OT
  Mick Duncan

Gday  Richard

Strewth, some using common sense,railway operation as it should be

These days the crew would have been shot at dawn the next day

Cheers,    Mick

On 15/05/2018 8:48 PM, 'Richard Youl' via TramsDownUnder wrote:
> What was the fare, Geoffrey?

>

> Your mention of the Australind gives me an excuse to post these photos of a trip on that train in January 1972.

>

> On the way back from Bunbury on a quite hot day, we came across a short bit of track which did not handle the heat all that well.

>

> We sat there for about an hour while all the ice cream sold out in the refreshment car.

>

> Eventually they decided to take the chance and the train crept through, uneventfully.

>

> I suppose that today they would dither fro about 3 hours then call in some buses from somewhere.

>

> Richard

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>> On 15 May 2018, at 18:16, Geoffrey gnhansen29@... mailto:gnhansen29@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>

>> One thing that surprised me about Western Australia was that the Australind train outside of Perth was quite expensive.

>> I would hate to have to commute from Bunbury with the prices.

>>

>> Regards Geoffrey

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>> *From:*tramsdownunder@... mailto:tramsdownunder@googlegroups.com tramsdownunder@... mailto:tramsdownunder@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Prescott lenkaprescott@... mailto:lenkaprescott@gmail.com>

>> *Sent:* Monday, May 14, 2018 8:52:42 AM

>> *To:* TramsDownUnder

>> *Subject:* Re: [TramsDownUnder] Re: Brisbane residents ditch public transport and get back in their cars

>> There was contraction of employment and closure of offices in the Perth CBD. This also affected the patronage of CBD carparks, so less people were driving in as well.

>>

>> I've seen the graphs a while ago. I reckon they're Chris Loader's from Charting Transport. They're part of his excellent transport data summaries from censuses.

>>

>> Tony P

>>

>> On Monday, 14 May 2018 08:38:15 UTC+10, Richard Youl wrote:

>>

>> It looked to me that all the figures were expressed as

>> percentages so I guess you are saying that only city workers who

>> travelled by PT were laid off.

>>

>> Incidentally if no charts appear in the article it may be

>> necessary to open the actual link.

>>

>> Regards,

>>

>>

>> On 14 May 2018, at 07:35, Prescott lenkap...@...> wrote:

>>

>>> Commuting to the Perth CBD has declined with the economic slump

>>> following the end of the mining construction boom and an

>>> increased office vacancy rate. Public transport, being typically

>>> CBD-centred, has been affected by this. As the economy recovers,

>>> patronage is expected to recover.

>>>

>>> Tony P

>>>

>>> On Monday, 14 May 2018 06:23:53 UTC+10, Richard Youl wrote:

>>>

>>> The decline in Perth comes as a surprise.

>>>

>>> Perhaps PT use is not so much determined by the quality of

>>> its service but rather the ease (or lack of it in places

>>> like Sydney) of driving that are the main deciding factor.

>>>

>>> Regards,

>>>

>>>

>>> https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/brisbane-residents-ditch-public-transport-and-get-back-in-their-cars-20180511-p4zetn.html

>>> https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/brisbane-residents-ditch-public-transport-and-get-back-in-their-cars-20180511-p4zetn..html

>>>

>>>

>>> Brisbane residents ditch public transport and get back in

>>> their cars

>>>

>>> Ruth McCosker

>>> https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/by/ruth-mccosker-gvrpqw13

>>> May 2018 — 10:31pm

>>>

>>>

>>> By Ruth McCosker

>>>

>>> Updatedfirst published 11 May 2018 — 4:48pm

>>>

>>> Brisbane residents are getting off public transport and back

>>> into cars, with 72 per cent of people going to work by car.

>>>

>>> Compared to other Australian capital cities, Brisbane was

>>> one of only two that had a decline in public transport usage

>>> to get to work between 2011 and 2016, with Perth being the

>>> other.

>>>

>>> Public transport usage by capital city. Key: LGA - local

>>> government area; UCL - urban centre/locality

>>> Public transport usage by capital city. Key: LGA - local

>>> government area; UCL - urban centre/locality

>>> Photo: Brisbane City Council

>>>

>>> Brisbane City Council’s infrastructure committee reviewed

>>> Brisbane’s commuting habits and compared them with other

>>> capital cities following the recent release of the 2016

>>> Australian Bureau of Statistics Census data.

>>>

>>> A council spokesman said the downward trend with public

>>> transport usage could be due to service interruptions on

>>> rail lines or fare escalation between 2011 and 2016.

>>>

>>> “Sydney benefited from quite a fair bit of surgery to their

>>> rail network and also a lot of urban consolidation, and to a

>>> lesser extent Melbourne,” he said.

>>>

>>> According to ABS, in Brisbane, 20.2 per cent of people

>>> travelled to work by public transport in 2011 compared to

>>> 18.6 per cent in 2016.

>>>

>>> Public transport was mainly used along the Northgate, Ferny

>>> Grove and Oxley rail corridors as well as the south-east

>>> region, Waterworks Road and Chermside bus corridors.

>>>

>>> In 2016, 72.2 per cent of Brisbane residents used a car to

>>> get to work compared with 70.3 per cent in 2011.

>>>

>>> Car commuting by capital city

>>> Car commuting by capital city

>>> Photo: Brisbane City Council

>>>

>>> Compared with other capital cities, Brisbane was the

>>> second-least reliant on cars, with more car travel than

>>> Sydney but less than Melbourne, Perth and Adelaide.

>>>

>>> Both Melbourne and Sydney had a decline in car transport

>>> between the last two census data collections while Brisbane

>>> had an increase.

>>>

>>> Brisbane is still a car-dominated city for journeys to work,

>>> except for the inner city.

>>>

>>> Brisbane is a car-dominated city for journeys to work, with

>>> the red area on the map denoting car travel.

>>> Brisbane is a car-dominated city for journeys to work, with

>>> the red area on the map denoting car travel.

>>> Photo: Brisbane City Council

>>>

>>> For cycling, the data showed more Brisbane residents jumped

>>> on a bike to get to work than any other capital city with

>>> 2.1 per cent of residents travelling by bike in 2016

>>> compared to 1.9 per cent in 2011.

>>>

>>> Sydney had an increase in bicycle use between 2011 and 2016,

>>> but still, less than 1 per cent of Sydney residents travel

>>> to work by bike.

>>>

>>> Melbourne also had an increase in cycling but is yet to

>>> reach the same percentage of commuters travelling by bike

>>> that Brisbane has.

>>>

>>> A small per cent of people travel to work by bike in each of

>>> Australia's capital cities.

>>> A small per cent of people travel to work by bike in each of

>>> Australia's capital cities.

>>> Photo: Brisbane City Council

>>>

>>> The council spokesman said there were certainly significant

>>> differences in travel behaviour trends between the capital

>>> cities.

>>>

>>> “As we expected, Brisbane local government area really does

>>> perform pretty well compared to other capital cities,” he said.

>>>

>>> “Brisbane is generally between the top two cities, Sydney

>>> and Melbourne, and performing better than Adelaide and Perth.”

>>>

>>> The next census will be conducted in August 2021.

>>>

>>> Ruth McCosker is an urban affairs reporter at the Brisbane

>>> Times, with a special interest in Brisbane City Council

>>>

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